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Webmaster Forum / General / Web Design / August 2008Been away, need some advice
I plan on authoring a web page critical of bad veterinarians. I expect that they will try to nullify my efforts. I need a site that a) is free or fairly inexpensive b) is relatively inaccessible to USA judicial efforts at closure c) is anonymous in that my identity can be anon or faked and d) preferably offshore if possible. It will be hard for them to come after me directly even if they know who I am, but I am more concerned about their ability to stopper my webpage by complaints. If I have the wrong newsgroup, please suggest another that is well read. Thanks. Can anyone offer any helpful, concrete suggestions? Thanks. [A post titled "Been away, need some advice".] Where were you? Why should we care? And LBNL, what does your awayness have to do with vets or Web sites? Almost every OP here needs advice, why do you mention it in the subject line? > I plan on authoring a web page critical of bad veterinarians. <html> <head><title>Vets are the spawn of Satan</title></head> <body> <p>Bad doc! No biscuit!</p> </body> </html> > I expect that > they will try to nullify my efforts. I need a site that a) is free or fairly [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > even if they know who I am, but I am more concerned about their ability to > stopper my webpage by complaints. Sounds like you intend to employ legally actionable methods to defame doctors you don't like. Are you sure you want to do this? If you want your page -- and if it's really only one page, I bet the vets ignore you -- accepts comments, make it so that they're moderated. That way you can delete the posters who try to present the vets' side of things. Alternative idea: Provide a form for lodging complaints that doesn't actually save any input. > If I have the wrong newsgroup, please > suggest another that is well read. Thanks. alt.med.veterinary.slander? misc.legal.computing? > Can anyone offer any helpful, concrete suggestions? No, since you put it that way, I can't. BTW, unless you own madhouse.com, you should change the e-mail address you use for postings. Otherwise you're spamming somebody else's domain (and somebody might start a Web site defaming you to the world).  SignatureJohn I'm sure you're *libel* to get other feedback... > they will try to nullify my efforts. I need a site that a) is free or > fairly inexpensive b) is relatively inaccessible to USA judicial efforts > at closure c) is anonymous in that my identity can be anon or faked and d) > preferably offshore if possible. It will be hard for them to come after me > directly Libel is never a safe policy; while it can be difficult and expensive to sue people in other countries, it is easy to sue people who have websites in other countries. You are still responsible, and almost always traceable. And why would any reputable host risk their livelihood to protect yuor attacks? This IS the wrong group; you need alt.crooked.lawyers SignatureAndrew seo2seo.com sick-site-syndrome.com UK Residents: STOP THE "10p Tax Ripoff" Sign the petition to stop the government stealing from the very poorest tell your friends about this petition: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/10penceband/ > I plan on authoring a web page critical of bad veterinarians. I expect > that they will try to nullify my efforts. I need a site that a) is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Can anyone offer any helpful, concrete suggestions? With enough money (and in the grand scheme of things, we're not talking about a lot), any "anonymous" person on the 'net is traceable. Taking on people who *have* that money is *not* a good thing, if you are intending to use actionable tactics, such as libel, defamation of character and other such methods. That being said: I've had more than a couple of experiences with vets who shouldn't be practicing medicine on amoebas, much less family pets or livestock: Why not make a site that is based on provable fact, offer legitimate advice, things to look out for in shady vets, forums for people to suggest *good* vets and so on ? My worst experience with a bad vet was a shyster who, after spending almost a thousand dollars on a cat, just before christmas, who was getting thinner and thinner, the vet told us it had "feline AIDS" and the medicine to keep it alive was going to be $600 a month. We just didn't have that kind of money for the pet, so we had it put down. The vet asked to do an autopsy (the only thing we didn't have to pay for) and it turned out the cat had swallowed a rubber ball that was lodged in it's throat. How's that for an ethical vet ? (There was no feline AIDS, either - the vet had made a "best guess" and was going to fleece us for the money each month) SignatureMarc Bissonnette Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com Largest ISP comparison site across Canada. Something to sell ? http://www.pennypinchernewspaper.com > That being said: I've had more than a couple of experiences with vets who > shouldn't be practicing medicine on amoebas, much less family pets or > livestock: Why not make a site that is based on provable fact, offer > legitimate advice, things to look out for in shady vets, forums for people > to suggest *good* vets and so on ? Because it would be a reasonable response, and the OP isn't feeling reasonable just now. > My worst experience with a bad vet was a shyster ... Hey, hey, now wait a minute. The vet was no shyster; the vet was a charlatan. Your *lawyer* is a shyster. SignatureJohn Possessive "its" has no apostrophe. Even on the Internet. >> That being said: I've had more than a couple of experiences with vets >> who shouldn't be practicing medicine on amoebas, much less family [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Because it would be a reasonable response, and the OP isn't feeling > reasonable just now. Hrm, probably true. Here's hoping he doesn't do anything stupid that'll just get himself into trouble. >> My worst experience with a bad vet was a shyster ... > > Hey, hey, now wait a minute. The vet was no shyster; the vet was a > charlatan. > > Your *lawyer* is a shyster. Well, he was a quack, too :) SignatureMarc Bissonnette Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com Largest ISP comparison site across Canada. Something to sell ? http://www.pennypinchernewspaper.com >>> That being said: I've had more than a couple of experiences >>> with vets who shouldn't be practicing medicine on amoebas, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Hrm, probably true. Here's hoping he doesn't do anything stupid > that'll just get himself into trouble. If he's the only casualty, who cares? SignatureBlinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org Blinky: http://blinkynet.net >>>> That being said: I've had more than a couple of experiences >>>> with vets who shouldn't be practicing medicine on amoebas, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > If he's the only casualty, who cares? I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt by assuming he just got ripped off by a vet and is reacting emotionally - Hell, a google on my name and dog and 911 will show that I did something just about as stupid when my poor pup was killed by a car :/ If this is the case, he could take his anger and determination and turn it into something useful and constructive :) SignatureMarc Bissonnette Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com Largest ISP comparison site across Canada. Something to sell ? http://www.pennypinchernewspaper.com Ok, I get it now. You guys are a bunch of a**hole web admins who get complaints from people who try to censor the internet. And who then comlain to their boyfriends who, in-turn, deny them sex. Stay tuned, same bat channel. By the time I get done, IF you are hosting vet or vet related websites or otherwise have your lips glued to some pro-vet a*hole, you will just love what is to follow. Just because I naively posted nicely, does not mean I am a novice on the net, as you will see in the immediate future. I'm laughing at all your warnings because NONE of them apply to me or will in any way effect me. You're a bunch of idiots really. And go ahead an try to get this account nuked, cuz I've got many others from multiple IPs that I can use, so you'll be pissing up a rope. You all just gave me more motivation to put my plan into effect. > I plan on authoring a web page critical of bad veterinarians. I expect > that they will try to nullify my efforts. I need a site that a) is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks. > Ok, I get it now. You guys are a bunch of a**hole web admins who get > complaints from people who try to censor the internet. And who then > comlain to their boyfriends who, in-turn, deny them sex. The most reasonable response I read was to collect FACTS instead of hearsay. You can still get sued, but if you actually libel people, they're likely to win the suits. (I imagine that's why you want to be anonymous... to make yourself more difficult to sue.) I also agree that in the end, anonymity on the Internet is generally nonexistent. > Just because I naively posted nicely, does not mean I am a novice on the > net, as you will see in the immediate future. I'm laughing at all your > warnings because NONE of them apply to me or will in any way effect me. Your choice. Some of the responses were over the top, for sure. But there was some good advice too. SignatureSteve Sobol / Victorville, CA, USA It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room. > Ok, I get it now. You guys are a bunch of a**hole web admins who get > complaints from people who try to censor the internet. And who then [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > you'll be pissing up a rope. You all just gave me more motivation to put > my plan into effect. Oh, look! A fart thinking he is good enough to be called sh.t. SignatureJohn Bokma http://johnbokma.com/ AISE/AWW/SEO/web development forum: http://seo-expert-wiki.com/ > Ok, I get it now. You guys are a bunch of a**hole web admins who get > complaints from people who try to censor the internet. And who then [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > you'll be pissing up a rope. You all just gave me more motivation to put > my plan into effect. Oh for heaven's sake. A bunch of us gave you the benefit of the doubt and even now, when you've had a few days to calm down, you still choose to take the *dumbest* way to "get back" at a vet that's wronged you. What you don't seem to understand, and has been pointed out to you several different ways, is that there is a *legal* way to achieve your aim, *without* the need for anonymity and *without* the risk of being sued, but *with* credibility. The way you're going, though, I can just imagine you're going to make a site full of vitriol and rantings that will result in nothing more than people saying "Oh look, another nut-job makes a web site". Good luck - you'll need a *lot* of it. >> I plan on authoring a web page critical of bad veterinarians. I expect >> that they will try to nullify my efforts. I need a site that a) is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Thanks. SignatureMarc Bissonnette Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com Largest ISP comparison site across Canada. Something to sell ? http://www.pennypinchernewspaper.com Alfred E. Neumann <whatmeworry@madhouse.com> wrote in message: g8ksjc$nmn$1@aioe.org, > Ok, I get it now. You guys are a bunch of a**hole web admins who get > complaints from people who try to censor the internet. And who then [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > use, so you'll be pissing up a rope. You all just gave me more > motivation to put my plan into effect. So you are paranoid and vindictive. Thanks for sharing. SignatureRed Red E. Kilowatt scribed: >Alfred E. Neumann <whatmeworry@madhouse.com> wrote in message: >g8ksjc$nmn$1@aioe.org, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >So you are paranoid and vindictive. Thanks for sharing. He'll probably put up a kook's web site. No, wait, that's what you did. Pot, meet kettle. SignatureEd Jay (remove 'M' to reply by email) Win the War Against Breast Cancer. Knowing the facts could save your life. http://www.breastthermography.info |
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