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Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk - 30 Jun 2008 22:45 GMT
Has anyone dabbled with KW density and noticed a point at which too high a
density loses position?

I have been playing around with KW's using SEOquake on our home page after
rankings have been declining fairly steadily over the last few months.

Just wondered what the groups thoughts are on this issue?

Cheers
Pete

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Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk - 30 Jun 2008 22:56 GMT
> Just wondered what the groups thoughts are on this issue?

and following on....

If I wanted to aim for maximum relevance for the terms "fitness equipment" and
"gym equipment" should  "gym" "fitness" "equipment" all rank as equals or
should I drop "equipment" slightly?

Obviously I am aware of the relevance of key word back-links etc.
:¬)

Cheers
Pete

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Big Bill - 02 Jul 2008 05:18 GMT
>> Just wondered what the groups thoughts are on this issue?
>
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>Cheers
>Pete

You could look into less usage of the direct terms and more usage of
synonyms etc. Get the thesaurus out.

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admin@3localagents.com - 02 Jul 2008 21:49 GMT
What I have noticed is that if you keep your KW density below 10% you
are good.
Andrew Heenan - 02 Jul 2008 23:10 GMT
> What I have noticed is that if you keep your
> KW density below 10% you are good.

It's not that simple; there's many factors involved, including page size,
'shared' content, etc., etc.
There is not "one right answer".

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Andrew Heenan - 30 Jun 2008 23:19 GMT
> Has anyone dabbled with KW density and noticed a point at which too high a
> density loses position?

If you get a friend to read your copy, and they laugh, your KW density is
too high.

You can even do it yourself - read out loud, and you'll soon learn when
you've overdone it.

If your content is good quality, KW density tends to take care of itself.
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John Bokma - 01 Jul 2008 17:02 GMT
> Just wondered what the groups thoughts are on this issue?

A waste of time. Time you can better use (IMNSHO) to find synonyms
and other ways to write about the topic on the same page. That way you
might find a niche that gives you more hits than trying to optimize for a
handful of keywords (I am sometimes amazed at how some pages of mine are
found, and how my ideas of good keywords don't agree with that of my
visitors :-D)

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Big Bill - 02 Jul 2008 05:18 GMT
>Has anyone dabbled with KW density and noticed a point at which too high a
>density loses position?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Cheers
>Pete

I'd say it's possible but dependant upon other factors. There won't be
a fixed level at which it becomes spam.

BB
admin@3localagents.com - 02 Jul 2008 21:51 GMT
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:45:31 +0100, "Pet -www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
>
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>
> BB

I have noticed that if your KW density is more than 10% it will affect
you badly.
Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk - 03 Jul 2008 12:26 GMT
> I have noticed that if your KW density is more than 10% it will affect
> you badly.

Thing that confused me even further is "key" "word" "density"  is completely
different to "key word density" or "key word" + "word density"

so... from my own perspective... if I want to tailor for both "fitness
equipment" and "gym equipment" I have the option of balancing up "gym" +
"fitness" + "equipment" under one set of rules or balancing "gym equipment" +
"fitness equipment" which then gives an excessive density of "equipment"

........ which could be seen as KW stuffing of "equipment"
and as such... reduce the weighting therby reducing the weight of the 2-word KW.

Argggggh...
;¬)

Just my thought for the day.

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http://www.commercial-gym-equipment.co.uk - Commercial Gym Equipment.

Big Bill - 03 Jul 2008 12:39 GMT
>> I have noticed that if your KW density is more than 10% it will affect
>> you badly.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>"fitness" + "equipment" under one set of rules or balancing "gym equipment" +
>"fitness equipment" which then gives an excessive density of "equipment"

Balance it out in the text with synomyms for fitness. Use gymnasium
now and then instead of gym. Work dojo and dojang in there.

BB
Big Bill - 03 Jul 2008 12:39 GMT
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:45:31 +0100, "Pet -www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>I have noticed that if your KW density is more than 10% it will affect
>you badly.

Again, that will be dependant upon other factors. If you've got the
most authority site on the planet according to IBLs, I doubt keyword
density will be an issue.

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