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Begging for money - too tacky?

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Dave Rolsky - 15 Jul 2008 06:15 GMT
A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations
he's received for his work, and I was thinking "howzabout me?"

I was wondering if anyone had ever put anything in their module POD asking
for donations, and if it worked. I wrote something up I was thinking of
adding to mine, and I was wondering if people thought this was too tacky..

Here's what I wrote ...

=head1 DONATIONS

If you'd like to thank me for the work I've done on this module,
please consider making a "donation" to me via PayPal (send  in thanks. I
spend a lot of free time creating free software, and would
appreciate any support you'd care to offer.

Please note that I am B<not> suggesting that you B<must> do this
in order for to continue working on this module. I will continue
to do so, inasmuch as I have in the past, for as long as it
interests me.

Similarly, a donation made in this way will probably not make me
work on this module much more, unless I get so many donations
that I can consider working on free software full time, which
seems unlikely at best.

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Sawyer X - 15 Jul 2008 09:20 GMT
Seems like a reasonable idea. I might just suggest a small change in
the phrasing. Something along the lines of "I do this out of interest
and spare time. However, my time is limited since I have a job
(/jobs?) and thus, donating will help me spare more time to work on
this. If you use this and find it useful and would like to donate to
help me develop it and/or would like to show appreciation - you're
more than welcome to donate."

Those short and to the point sentences always seem to get me.

Good luck, anyway!

> A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations he's received for his work, and I was thinking "howzabout me?"
>
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Dave Rolsky - 15 Jul 2008 09:22 GMT
> Seems like a reasonable idea. I might just suggest a small change in
> the phrasing. Something along the lines of "I do this out of interest
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> help me develop it and/or would like to show appreciation - you're
> more than welcome to donate."

Well, that just wouldn't be true. Unless people were to donate so much
money that I could afford to quit my job, or do part-time consulting, a
donation _won't_ increase the time I have available for working on this
stuff. I said that explicitly in the text I wrote.

-dave

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Sawyer X - 15 Jul 2008 09:32 GMT
Well, I consider some other stuff - which may be true for other people
I know which don't relate to you - like taking small jobs in between,
etc.
If you figure it does not relate to you, you're right to not include it.

>> Seems like a reasonable idea. I might just suggest a small change in
>> the phrasing. Something along the lines of "I do this out of interest
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Gabor Szabo - 15 Jul 2008 10:18 GMT
> A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations
> he's received for his work, and I was thinking "howzabout me?"

might be a good idea.

Make it easy to actually donate money.

Refering to Payal might work but maybe you need to explicitly add
your e-mail address there too.

AFIK there are some other systems specific for donations.
Maybe you should sign up with one of them and let people donate
that way too.

Do let us know how it works out :-)

regards
 Gabor
Dave Rolsky - 15 Jul 2008 11:47 GMT
>> A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations
>> he's received for his work, and I was thinking "howzabout me?"
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Refering to Payal might work but maybe you need to explicitly add
> your e-mail address there too.

Yeah, I had to log into PayPal to check what email address I'd used there.

> AFIK there are some other systems specific for donations.
> Maybe you should sign up with one of them and let people donate
> that way too.

Sourceforge offers this, but it's just a front end on PayPal anyway. I
don't know of any other viable alternatives.

-dave

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David Cantrell - 15 Jul 2008 12:41 GMT
> >Refering to Payal might work but maybe you need to explicitly add
> >your e-mail address there too.
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> Sourceforge offers this, but it's just a front end on PayPal anyway. I
> don't know of any other viable alternatives.

IIRC Amazon have a donation thing.  If you have an Amazon wishlist,
point people at that too.  About half the donations I get for CPANdeps
are in the form of books and DVDs.

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Dave Rolsky - 15 Jul 2008 13:26 GMT
> IIRC Amazon have a donation thing.  If you have an Amazon wishlist,
> point people at that too.  About half the donations I get for CPANdeps
> are in the form of books and DVDs.

In my case, I mostly don't want stuff, so I'd really prefer people to send
cash or nothing. For the stuff I do want, I generally either buy local,
used, or both, so cash works well for that ;)

-dave

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Jason Purdy - 15 Jul 2008 14:01 GMT
This might be a cool thing to add to CPAN in the form of a "Tip Jar".
People/Companies could donate money through there and CPAN could also
keep track of donations as a form of popularity. Authors could also
"tithe" or mark some percentage to donate to the Perl Foundation.

I had looked at doing this a few months ago as a Perl Grant, but the
hang up is the payment technology. Some of the bigger players (Amazon,
PayPal, Google Checkout) restrict who can sign up to receive money,
nationality-wise. Since the CPAN authorhood is a diverse group, we
couldn't get complete coverage.

- Jason

>> IIRC Amazon have a donation thing.  If you have an Amazon wishlist,
>> point people at that too.  About half the donations I get for CPANdeps
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Jenda Krynicky - 17 Jul 2008 15:44 GMT
From: Jason Purdy <jason@journalistic.com>
> This might be a cool thing to add to CPAN in the form of a "Tip Jar".
> People/Companies could donate money through there and CPAN could also
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> - Jason

This sounds like a lovely idea. And those that do not want the
donations could redirect them to PF completely while still getting
the popularity tracking.

Looks like the list of countries is pretty long on PayPal, though I'm
not sure people from all those countries are allowed forward the
money to their bank accounts. But even if they can't do that they I
believe can accumulate that money in the PayPal account and use them
on the internet. Or send them to the author of a different module ;-)
So it should not be a big problem.

> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, David Cantrell wrote:
>> IIRC Amazon have a donation thing.  If you have an Amazon wishlist,
>> point people at that too.  About half the donations I get for CPANdeps
>> are in the form of books and DVDs.

Why do you think I want others to know what do I want from Amazon? ;-
)

Jenda
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Ricardo SIGNES - 17 Jul 2008 12:55 GMT
* Gabor Szabo <szabgab@gmail.com> [2008-07-15T05:18:47]
> > A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations
> > he's received for his work, and I was thinking "howzabout me?"
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Refering to Payal might work but maybe you need to explicitly add
> your e-mail address there too.

Or include a link to a page like http://rjbs.manxome.org/talks/ where people
can click a button to get a ready-to-donate form.

Go ahead and try that one.  See how easy it is to donate!

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