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Webmaster Forum / Browsers / Opera / July 2008How could I get "flipback" back?
Hello, I am used to "hold right button, click left button (flipback)" to go back, but in Opera9.50, I can not use this function unless I enable mouse guesture. I never use mouse guesture, is there a way to get flipback work while mouse guesture is disabled? Any suggestion is appreciated.  SignatureBest regards, Lin. > Hello, I am used to "hold right button, click left button (flipback)" > to go back, but in Opera9.50, I can not use this function unless I > enable mouse guesture. I never use mouse guesture, is there a way to > get flipback work while mouse guesture is disabled? > > Any suggestion is appreciated. IIRC, flipback is now [properly] classified as a mouse gesture, since it can be configured in the mouse setup dialog. So, mouse gestures must be enabled for flipback to work. You can probably delete all other mouse gestures in the mouse setup dialog (Preferences> Advanced> Shortcuts> Edit... mouse setup), if you just want flipback and flipforward. >> Hello, I am used to "hold right button, click left button (flipback)" >> to go back, but in Opera9.50, I can not use this function unless I [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > (Preferences> Advanced> Shortcuts> Edit... mouse setup), if you just want > flipback and flipforward. Flipback is always configurable in the mouse setup dialog in Opera9.26 and previous versions, so it can't be the cause. Because flipback is a little different from mouse guestures, it doesn't require any movement of mouse but click. Anyway, thanks for your suggestion. It could be a workaround. SignatureBest regards, Lin. > Flipback is always configurable in the mouse setup dialog in Opera9.26 > and previous versions, so it can't be the cause. Because flipback is a > little different from mouse guestures, it doesn't require any movement > of mouse but click. > > Anyway, thanks for your suggestion. It could be a workaround. I noticed this new behaviour in one of the betas and was told that flipback was now part of mouse gestures. I said that on laptops you may not want mouse gestures but flipback is incredibly useful and was told the answer was to create a custom mouse setup. That seems over the top to just enable back and forward controls on my touchpad buttons. I don't consider these button controls to be gestures, no more than clicking both buttons simulates a middle click. > I noticed this new behaviour in one of the betas and was told that > flipback was now part of mouse gestures. I said that on laptops you may [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > consider these button controls to be gestures, no more than clicking > both buttons simulates a middle click. Fully agree with you. The flipback should not be considered as gesture, it is kinda like left click, right click, middle click. Hope Opera engineers to get it out of guesture, so that we can use it separately from mouse guesture. SignatureBest regards, Lin. On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:20:43 -0500: > I am used to "hold right button, click left button (flipback)" to go back I have my mouse buttons deliberately reversed, because it's much more comfortable; this messes up such mouse gestures, however :) How about trying the "Z" key? (and "X" for "forward") (at least these used to work in 9.27, but perhaps need re-enabling of "single key shortcuts" in 9.50, because after all Opera's fine work to make keyboard control easier, now it's "one step backwards" :) -- > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:20:43 -0500: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > because after all Opera's fine work to make keyboard control easier, > now it's "one step backwards" :) I love to use Z/X for backward/forward (as well as 1 &2 for switch between tabs) when using touchpad, but would prefer flipback/flipforward when using mouse :p SignatureBest regards, Lin. Flip returns in Opera 9.51 :cheer: SignatureBest regards, Lin. Lin wrote: >Flip returns in Opera 9.51 :cheer: If you're referring to the 'hold a button, click the other' page navigation, I have it with my current 9.50 I got 9.51 last night and will play with it later today. I think I had to check mouse gestures or something to get it. Can somebody explain to me what "flipback" is and what it does and how to do it? >> Flip returns in Opera 9.51 :cheer: > > If you're referring to the 'hold a button, click the other' page > navigation, I have it with my current 9.50 > I got 9.51 last night and will play with it later today. > I think I had to check mouse gestures or something to get it. > Can somebody explain to me what "flipback" is and what it does and how > to do it? Hold down the right mouse button and click the left. This moves you back through the history. Hold down the left button and click the right, and this moves you forward. It's a bit fiddly when you first use it, but after a week or two you'll never want to use anything else, let alone an awkward icon at the other end of the screen! This feature used to always work since version 5, but someone decided these were mouse gestures in 9.50 so if you had those disabled then flipback stopped working. They've fixed this in 9.51. >> Can somebody explain to me what "flipback" is and what it does and how >> to do it? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > these were mouse gestures in 9.50 so if you had those disabled then > flipback stopped working. They've fixed this in 9.51. Thanks for this. I've been using it since the beginning. But I thought it was a mouse gesture. I never realized it was called "flipback." >> Can somebody explain to me what "flipback" is and what it does and >> how to do it? > > Hold down the right mouse button and click the left. This moves you > back through the history. Hold down the left button and click the > right, and this moves you forward. I was under the impression that it did more: I had to turn it off because when I was scrolling down on bulletin boards and accidentally hit the right mouse button, I'd get sent to the next topic, which was something I didn't want. I mentoined it at <sjehgduznt2u$.dlg@tedstennis.tripod.com> for example. To go backward and forward through the history, I use the Z and X keys, although I understand these have been turned off in 9.50; I had to turn them back on. SignatureTed S. fedya at hughes dot net Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com > I was under the impression that it did more: I had to turn it off > because when I was scrolling down on bulletin boards and accidentally > hit the right mouse button, I'd get sent to the next topic, which was > something I didn't want. That sounds like a mouse gesture to me. You hold down the right button and move the mouse (or drag your finger if you're using a touchpad) in a specific shape to perform an action. This is what I want disabled because I have a touchpad and it's too easy to accidentally trigger mouse gestures, however flipback/forward are invaluable so I always want them enabled, and actually find it irritating when I have to use another browser and they're not there. I also use Z and X, and have the re-enabled in 9.5, but flipback is by far the easiest method if you use a mouse or touchpad. >> I was under the impression that it did more: I had to turn it off >> because when I was scrolling down on bulletin boards and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > button and move the mouse (or drag your finger if you're using a > touchpad) in a specific shape to perform an action. No; what was happening to me is that I was holding down the left mouse button to scroll down a long page, and then accidentally clicking on the right button, getting sent to another page. SignatureTed S. fedya at hughes dot net Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com Op Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:45:28 +0200 schreef Ted S. <fedya@hughes.spam>: >>> Can somebody explain to me what "flipback" is and what it does and >>> how to do it? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > something I didn't want. I mentoined it at > <sjehgduznt2u$.dlg@tedstennis.tripod.com> for example. The 'flipforward' thing is set to "Forward | Fast forward" by default. This means that a 'fast forward' action will be performed if is available and there is no 'forward' action that can be done. > To go backward and forward through the history, I use the Z and X keys, > although I understand these have been turned off in 9.50; I had to turn > them back on. SignatureRijk van Geijtenbeek Opera Software ASA, Documentation & QA Tweak: http://my.opera.com/Rijk/blog/ "The most common way to get usability wrong is to listen to what users say rather than actually watching what they do." -- J.Nielsen > Can somebody explain to me what "flipback" is and what it does and how > to do it? Exactly as Eik has explained. It is wonderful to use flipback/flipforward to nevigate in browsing history. Strongly recommend to you :D SignatureBest regards, Lin. >> Flip returns in Opera 9.51 :cheer: > > If you're referring to the 'hold a button, click the other' page > navigation, I have it with my current 9.50 > I got 9.51 last night and will play with it later today. > I think I had to check mouse gestures or something to get it. Yes, 9.50 can get it work only when mouse guesture is enabled. And now, it works in 9.51 without some annoying guesture :thumbup: SignatureBest regards, Lin. |
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