Firefox 3 Slower Than the Pre-Release Versions
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steve281499 - 01 Jul 2008 00:25 GMT Hi!
This must sound weird, but since I loaded Firefox 3 final release, Firefox is slower opening pages. Often to get a link to open I have to click on the link again. I am at a loss since Firefox 2.14 did not have that problem, nor did the Release Candidate versions of Firefox 3. I suspect (based on no evidence!) that something from the prior versions is "hanging up" Firefox 3.
Any ideas of where to look?
Thanks!
Steve
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo - 01 Jul 2008 03:20 GMT > Hi! > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > steve281499@gmail.com nope, sorry I can't say that. FF3 opens pages a lot faster than FF2, and others are seeing that, too. Are you using the same profile for FF3 as you did for FF2? If so, then try using a new profile and see what happens.
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Justin - 01 Jul 2008 03:40 GMT Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:56 -0700]:
>> Hi! >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the same profile for FF3 as you did for FF2? If so, then try > using a new profile and see what happens. I have noticed FF3 be a little slower. My question is this though, what's the effing point of having profiles that you spend months customising if the default answer to every problem is "sorry, start again".
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo - 01 Jul 2008 05:27 GMT > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:56 -0700]: >>> Hi! [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > customising if the default answer to every problem is "sorry, start > again". because profiles can become corrupt with a bad extension or something.
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Justin - 01 Jul 2008 05:32 GMT Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:27:47 -0700]:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:56 -0700]: >>>> Hi! [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > because profiles can become corrupt with a bad extension or > something. That's just as ridiculous as Dell or HP or whoever having the only way to help you be to reformat your HD and setup windows the way it shipped from the factory, completely un-friendly to the people who need the help the most.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo - 01 Jul 2008 07:00 GMT > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:27:47 -0700]: >>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:56 -0700]: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > from the factory, completely un-friendly to the people who need the help > the most. then do you know of a better way to solve various problems?
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Justin - 01 Jul 2008 17:00 GMT Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:05:36 -0700]:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:27:47 -0700]: >>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:56 -0700]: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > then do you know of a better way to solve various problems? Whether the problems are solved or not it doesn't help to lose all the settings and whatever else you have in your primary profile.
I haven't seen a tool to migrate profile data from one to another, does one exist?
Ed Mullen - 01 Jul 2008 20:26 GMT > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:05:36 -0700]: >>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:27:47 -0700]: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > I haven't seen a tool to migrate profile data from one to another, does > one exist? I don't know of a tool, however it's really pretty easy:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Migrating_settings_to_a_new_profile http://www.holgermetzger.de/pdl.html http://users.adelphia.net/~irwingreenwald/About%20Profiles.html http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/
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Justin - 01 Jul 2008 21:57 GMT Ed Mullen wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:26:49 -0400]:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:05:36 -0700]: >>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:27:47 -0700]: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > http://users.adelphia.net/~irwingreenwald/About%20Profiles.html > http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/ So, you'd be copying a corrupt profile into a non-corrupt one, probably causing the same issues to resurface?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo - 01 Jul 2008 22:05 GMT > Ed Mullen wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:26:49 -0400]: >>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:05:36 -0700]: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > So, you'd be copying a corrupt profile into a non-corrupt one, probably > causing the same issues to resurface? you still haven't answered my question: since you're an expert: do you know of a better way?
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Justin - 01 Jul 2008 22:09 GMT Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:06:15 -0700]:
>> Ed Mullen wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:26:49 -0400]: >>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:05:36 -0700]: [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > you still haven't answered my question: since you're an > expert: do you know of a better way? Did I say I was an expert? No, you assumed I was.
I asked what's the point of having profiles if you lose the customisations as the FIRST THING when trying to solve an issue?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo - 01 Jul 2008 22:11 GMT > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:06:15 -0700]: >>> Ed Mullen wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:26:49 -0400]: [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > I asked what's the point of having profiles if you lose the > customisations as the FIRST THING when trying to solve an issue? again, you fail to answer my question. You keep dancing around it, but no answer: do you know of a better way?
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Justin - 01 Jul 2008 22:15 GMT Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:16:15 -0700]:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:06:15 -0700]: >>>> Ed Mullen wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:26:49 -0400]: [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > again, you fail to answer my question. You keep dancing > around it, but no answer: do you know of a better way? Sure, disable all add-ons and enable one by one, for a start.
Moz Champion (Dan) - 02 Jul 2008 12:13 GMT > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:16:15 -0700]: >>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:06:15 -0700]: [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Sure, disable all add-ons and enable one by one, for a start. Depends on the issue involved.
SOME issues (not all) can be dealt with by using a new profile. Other issues can be dealt with by other means.
In this specific situation, the problem MAY have been the profile, so it was SUGGESTED that you try a new profile as a test, to see if that was the case. If it WAS, then you could be directed to how to transfer data from one to the other.
A profile becomes corrupt when data is written/added to a file that shouldn't be there. So, as you transfer data from one profile to the new one, you simply stop and see if the problem appears in the new after transfering over, say the bookmarks.
And disabling all the add-ons is usually covered by the use safe mode test. Safe mode in Firefox disables all the add-ons so you can test using that, instead of manually disabling each add-on. If it does work (the problem goes away) in safe mode, that indicates it is an extension/add-on situation and you would not be told to change to a new profile.
In any case, the instruction given here was to try a new profile (as a TEST). I see nothing wrong with that as a means of fault finding. If a NEW profile did clear up the problem, then yes, it could be assumed it was a profile situation. If it didn't, well, then it can be assumed it ISN'T a profile situation.
You were asked to test, but instead you engaged in this diatribe about it being the first thing, and you were not even asked to change your current profile, but simply to TEST to see if it was a profile situation in the first place.
Ed Mullen - 02 Jul 2008 03:51 GMT > Ed Mullen wrote on [Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:26:49 -0400]: >>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on [Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:05:36 -0700]: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > So, you'd be copying a corrupt profile into a non-corrupt one, probably > causing the same issues to resurface? Well, ok. Sure. If you indiscriminately simply copy an entire profile, yeah. you are simply duplicating problems. Duh! Did you read those references I posted or just skim them? Did you understand them?
If you're that dense, stop asking. If you want some mythical tool to help you not be a tool, stop asking. It does not now nor will it ever exist. Life is not perfect, life takes work, so does computing.
To be specific in answering your question ...
It will take a little work to figure out what part of your profile data is causing your particular problem. Once you figure that out you can NOT transfer that part of the profile. This requires knowledge and experience on your part. We can help but only if you actually read and follow our suggestions. If all you do is complain, good luck getting any more help.
For instance. Suppose you have installed a lot of extensions. Create a new profile and only migrate your passwords, forms, bookmarks and such. Problem fixed? Ok. Start adding your extensions one by one. When the new profile exhibits the same issues as the old one you have found the culprit. This is classic software de-bugging. Don't want to de-bug? Ah! You want perfect software. Ok. Um. No, not ok. You are screwed.
Now. If none of this is to your taste, if it is too labor intensive or if you simply expect life and software to work without work on your part? You are sh.t out of luck.
Look. I don't mean to be curt but, honestly, anyone coming in here expecting perfection is asking to be flamed. You are using free software that works much better than anything you'd pay good money for. And you carp about imperfections? Sheesh.
Look. These groups exist to avail the public of the expertise of years of user experience. They do not exist to satisfy every whim or unrealistic expectation of uninformed users. It is a process. You read. You learn. You try things.
If this is not the way you want to compute, don't.
Sorry if you find my response off-putting. I'm not in a mood to suffer fools lightly tonight.
If I mis-interpreted, sorry again.
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steve281499 - 01 Jul 2008 04:18 GMT On Jun 30, 9:20 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo <peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi! > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon:http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm Thanks for the reply.
I realize that the consensus is that FF3 is faster than the previous versions, I did not mean to say or imply that. I just know that something is wrong with my installation and I can not figure out what is wrong.
How do I go about creating a new profile?? My first thought was to delete the current one - which seems to be the one that I had before - but needed guidance before doing that.
Thanks!
Steve
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo - 01 Jul 2008 05:27 GMT > On Jun 30, 9:20 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo > <peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Steve close FF, then click on the windows start button, then run, and enter:
firefox.exe -p
this will start the FF profile manager. Create a test profile there. Does the problem continue in that?
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steve281499 - 03 Jul 2008 17:30 GMT On Jun 30, 11:27 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo <peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 30, 9:20 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo > > <peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon:http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm Thanks for the guidance Peter! I admit to not having much knowledge about the "inner workings" of Firefox.
I created a new profile and the speed was really improved. I then went back to the "original 3.0 version" and checked the add-ons. Several I had added when I went from 2.14 to 3.0. I removed all of them and the speed really improved.
Thanks for your help!
Steve
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