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Webmaster Forum / HTML, CSS, Scripts / JavaScript / December 2007Prototype & Scriptaculous are taking 1-3 seconds each to load - why?
Using Firebug's 'Net' Panel, I can visit http://script.aculo.us and watch prototype.js file load in just over 400ms, and scriptaculous.js in just under 400ms. Additional files such as effects.js also load in a couple of hundred milliseconds. However, when on my own page, http://foremost.intraspin.com, prototype.js consistently takes around 1.9 seconds, or 1900ms to load, and scriptaculous.js often over 3500ms! I found that my web server wasn't using GZIP compression, so have now implemented it and used a tool (http://www.pipeboost.com) to verify it's working. However, prototype,scriptaculous and associated files are still taking in the order of seconds to load. I can use jsmin of YUI Compressor to improve the load speed further, but http://script.aculo.us doesn't do this, so I think there will still be a problem. Can anyone suggest what the problem is, or how to investigate further? I'm using IIS6 on Windows 2003. Thanks, Iain > I can use jsmin of YUI Compressor to improve the load speed further, > but http://script.aculo.us doesn't do this, so I think there will > still be a problem. Can anyone suggest what the problem is, [...] The problem is that you are using Prototype.js and Script.aculo.us. HTH PointedEars  Signaturerealism: HTML 4.01 Strict evangelism: XHTML 1.0 Strict madness: XHTML 1.1 as application/xhtml+xml -- Bjoern Hoehrmann Thomas, I understand that some consider the load weight of Prototype and Scriptaculous not worth the benefits they offer, but that was not my question. The Scriptaculous website appears to load the files in question quickly enough for my needs - my problem is that my website doesn't - can anyone suggest why? iporter said the following on 12/26/2007 7:36 AM: > Thomas, I understand that some consider the load weight of Prototype > and Scriptaculous not worth the benefits they offer, but that was not > my question. Welcome to Usenet. You post, we discuss. You get an answer, great. You don't, you move on. This isn't a help desk. > The Scriptaculous website appears to load the files in question > quickly enough for my needs - my problem is that my website doesn't - > can anyone suggest why? It could be anything from server settings, server speed, internet traffic all the way down to how the worms are eating under your house. SignatureRandy Chance Favors The Prepared Mind comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/ > Thomas, I understand that some consider the load weight of Prototype > and Scriptaculous not worth the benefits they offer, The supposed benefits these libraries seem to offer to the uninitiated are outweighed by their disadvantages as apparent to the experienced developer, which includes, but is not limited to, extreme code size due to lack of proper software engineering in creating them. > but that was not my question. That's too bad. > The Scriptaculous website appears to load the files in question > quickly enough for my needs - my problem is that my website doesn't - > can anyone suggest why? There is a problem with your Web site or the way you use these libraries; neither of those is on-topic here. PointedEars Signature"Use any version of Microsoft Frontpage to create your site. (This won't prevent people from viewing your source, but no one will want to steal it.)" -- from <http://www.vortex-webdesign.com/help/hidesource.htm> > I can use jsmin of YUI Compressor to improve the load speed further, > but http://script.aculo.us doesn't do this, so I think there will > still be a problem. Can anyone suggest what the problem is, or how to > investigate further? You could try using YSlow: http://developer.yahoo.com/yslow/ Also, I notice that http://script.aculo.us is using an older version of prototype.js that is barely half the size of the one you are using. Ed, thanks for your help - interesting that scriptaculous is using an older version of Prototype. YSlow is a useful tool that I have been using, thanks. I've realised that loading the site in question is causing my server's CPU usage to max out, and that the w3wp.exe process is responsible. Does this shed any light? I don't understand - as far as I'm aware, javascript is client-side script, and thus the server has only to send a small file to the client. Why would the CPU usage be any different from an image of similar size? Thanks, Iain > > I can use jsmin of YUI Compressor to improve the load speed further, > > buthttp://script.aculo.usdoesn't do this, so I think there will [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://developer.yahoo.com/yslow/ Yep, there's also a plugin for Firefox. The Firebug Net panel would also verify which components are gzip'd. Here's how: F12: Net > JS > Headers Response Headers____ Content-Encoding gzip If you don't see "Content-Encoding gzip" in the response headers, it's not being sent. > Also, I notice thathttp://script.aculo.usis using an older version > of > prototype.js that is barely half the size of the one you are using. |
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