Trying do create dynamic menus - need to delay mouseout for about 200 ms.

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Terry - 29 Sep 2007 10:56 GMT

var oMattress = document.getElementById("mattressmenu");
oMattress.onmouseover = function ()
{document.getElementById"mattress").style.display = "block";}

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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn - 29 Sep 2007 12:37 GMT

> var oMattress = document.getElementById("mattressmenu");
> oMattress.onmouseover = function ()

Proprietary and inherently error-prone. See _addEventListener() in
http://PointedEars.de/scripts/dhtml.js

> {document.getElementById"mattress").style.display = "block";}

--------------------------^
Syntax error.

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Terry - 29 Sep 2007 14:40 GMT

On Sep 29, 7:37 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@web.de>
wrote:

> > var oMattress = document.getElementById("mattressmenu");
> > oMattress.onmouseover = function ()
>
> Proprietary and inherently error-prone. See _addEventListener() inhttp://PointedEars.de/scripts/dhtml.js

I am surprised you saw this post because I removed it when I realized
that I had not completed the whole post.

I am wondering how is what I was trying to do proprietary? It was
working so far with both Firefox and IE (at least IE7)?

Are there any other resources that you can point me to if I want to
build cascading menus properly.

I was about to purchase DHTML Utopia: Modern Web Design Using
Javascript and the DOM.

Thanks in advance,
Terry

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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn - 29 Sep 2007 14:45 GMT

> On Sep 29, 7:37 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@web.de>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I am surprised you saw this post because I removed it when I realized
> that I had not completed the whole post.

You are using Google's faulty and obviously not fool-proof Web interface.

> I am wondering how is what I was trying to do proprietary?

Assigning a Function object reference to a non-standard property, even
though (at least in two DOMs) a standards-compliant alternative is possible.

> It was working so far with both Firefox and IE (at least IE7)?

So?

> Are there any other resources that you can point me to if I want to
> build cascading menus properly.

http://www.google.com/search?q=css+menu&filter=0

> I was about to purchase DHTML Utopia: Modern Web Design Using
> Javascript and the DOM.

And I thought it couldn't get any worse.

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Terry - 29 Sep 2007 15:12 GMT

On Sep 29, 9:45 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@web.de>
wrote:

> > On Sep 29, 7:37 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@web.de>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> And I thought it couldn't get any worse.

I take it you don't reccommend that book.

I must say that it seems like you and a few others seem to be really
knowledge. What do I have to do to reach your lofty status? I am kind
of starting all over again with this stuff. I have a degree in Comp.
Sci. but it was a while before I started to get into development.

Any suggestions on how I could improve real fast.

I know classic asp fairly well might be using asp.net at my next job
and am planning on learning php and then eventually ruby on rails.

I appreciate your advice,
Terry

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Terry - 29 Sep 2007 15:30 GMT

I followed both of your links.

With the first one it is still downloading the javascript.

Was there a particular link in that results of that google search that
you thought would be goood for me to look at.

I just came across this http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutorials/testMenu.html

what do you think.

I guess I should try to build something that won't fail if javascript
is disabled.

By the way that downloading is still going on.

Terry

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timsamshuijzen@gmail.com - 29 Sep 2007 15:30 GMT

> I must say that it seems like you and a few others seem to be really
> knowledge. What do I have to do to reach your lofty status? I am kind
> of starting all over again with this stuff. I have a degree in Comp.
> Sci. but it was a while before I started to get into development.
>
> Any suggestions on how I could improve real fast.

Here are some links that got me started (two weeks ago):

http://www.quirksmode.org/resources.html
http://www.nexes.org/sun/javascript/ajaxinaction/Ajax%20in%20Action_ApB.html

and ofcourse:

http://jibbering.com/faq/
http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ3_2

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Terry - 29 Sep 2007 15:40 GMT

Thank you.

On Sep 29, 10:30 am, timsamshuij...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here are some links that got me started (two weeks ago):

http://www.quirksmode.org/resources.htmlhttp://www.nexes.org/sun/javascript/ajax
inaction/Ajax%20in%20Action_A...

Is it safe to run the active x for the above link.

Thanks,
Terry

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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn - 30 Sep 2007 12:58 GMT

> On Sep 29, 9:45 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@web.de>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I take it you don't reccommend that book.

Correct.

The best answer to that request is that you can not. Acquiring knowledge
that can be applied correctly requires experience and acquiring that
requires time. It helps if you are a quick study, but it helps more to
study more.

To provide you with a perspective: I am doing JS/ECMAScript programming for
about 8 years now, I am considering myself a quick study regarding
programming languages and concepts, and I am still learning new things here
every week.

> I know classic asp fairly well might be using asp.net at my next job
> and am planning on learning php and then eventually ruby on rails.

Learning PHP is a good idea; I am not so sure with Ruby on Rails (but I only
read about the latter until now). You should concentrate more on learning
programming concepts than on learning a bunch of new languages.

On a closer look, programming languages are much alike, and if you can apply
the underlying programming concept, you can easily rewrite a program in any
language.

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who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
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