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100 ADOBE messages A DAY -- CAN'T TURN THEM OFF

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HossRadbourne - 23 Jul 2008 21:14 GMT
:disgust;

sTARTING LAST WEEK i AM GETTING ABOUT 100 MESSAGES EVERY DAY TELLING ME fLASH
PLAYER WON'T INSTALL.  Before this I got maybe 20 messages a day telling me
some web site was trying to install it.

Looking at the TechNotes on this, I am buffaloed. There is NO WAY I can
understand and follow them. One says I am in "serious trouble" if I even try.

Hell of a way to make satisfied customers!

Just tell me how to turn off these messages. I don't even know what a "flash
player" is or does and I've gotten along just fine without it for 20 years!
HossRadbourne - 23 Jul 2008 21:16 GMT
Sorry. No idea why the post went through 3 times.
Chris Georgenes - 24 Jul 2008 12:30 GMT
Hard to begin troubleshooting your issue without information regarding your
platform, OS, browser.

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> player" is or does and I've gotten along just fine without it for 20
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HossRadbourne - 24 Jul 2008 15:52 GMT
Hi Chris:

Thanks for replying.

I use a COMPAQ Presario
with 512MB memory
with WINDOWS XP home edition version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
and IE 7.0.5730.13

I printed tn_19166 and tried it w/o success.

I printed tn_19148 but could not understand it.

I printed fb1634cb -- it referred me to tn_15511 which says "don't use me, I'm
obsolete."

fb1634cb has warning messages which scare me too much to use. I have no idea
if I have "administrator privileges" or not. I am the only user on the machine
since its purchase many moons ago.

Apparently some web sites use flashplayer. But its use does not seem to be
essential (at least for me). Maybe there is a way to just block the requests to
install from the web sites?

Thanks
Chris Georgenes - 25 Jul 2008 19:57 GMT
The Flash Player is the most downloaded plugin in internet history for some
time now (Flash version 4?). over 94% of the world has version 9:
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
About 98% and over have some version of the player installed.
I would venture to say a majority of websites have some Flash content
somewhere on them (if not all Flash).

That said, if you want to avoid watching anything Flash-related across the
entire web:
Try googling "turn off flash player". Some suggest disabling plugins via the
browser. You can uninstall the Flash player as well through Add/Remove
programs (windows).
Or find the plugins folder for your browser and delete the flash player.
or:
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t9979-how-to-temporarily-disable-flash-pla
yer.html


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HossRadbourne - 25 Jul 2008 20:54 GMT
Looked over all you referred to.

I don't want to turn off flash player. I don't have it installed!

What I want to do is prevent web sites from trying to install it. Every time
they do, the error message referring me to tn_19166 appears. This happens about
100 times a day! More if I use the internet a lot.

John
Chris Georgenes - 26 Jul 2008 14:58 GMT
Have you followed all the instructions in that technote:
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_19166&sliceId=2

Are you trying to download/install it but having issues or are you ignoring
it because you don't want it? Ignoring the prompt to install will not make
it go away - in many cases it is the developer of the flash content who has
implemented a flash detection scheme.

I don't really have an answer as to how you can not have the player
installed, browse the web all day and not have websites prompt you to
download the player plugin needed to view the sites. It's kimd of like
driving toll roads all day but wanting to avoid paying the tolls as you
glide on through - maybe a bad anaology but the point is, flash is
ubiquitous and is a web technology saturating the majority of sites - it's
unavoidable and if you want to minimize it you might have to install it then
block it - try doing that and use Mozilla Firefox which has a flash plugin
blocker.

hope this helps.

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HossRadbourne - 26 Jul 2008 17:41 GMT
"Have you followed all the instructions in that technote:
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_19166&sliceId=2"

Yes. As far as they will work. Which is not far.

"Are you trying to download/install it but having issues or are you ignoring
it because you don't want it?"

I have tried both options. I don't mind having it installed but I can't figure
out how to make it happen. Having it ignored is also an option.

"I don't really have an answer as to how you can not have the player
installed, browse the web all day and not have websites prompt you to
download the player plugin needed to view the sites."

OK, I understand that. So it looks as if I SHOULD install it. If I could, I
would.

"if you want to minimize it you might have to install it then
block it - try doing that and use Mozilla Firefox which has a flash plugin
blocker."

I am just a dumb user. I don't know a "Firefox" from my left big toe. My
experience has been that whenever someone tells me "just get and install
WHATSIT from WHOEVER, when I do so bad things always happen. What I have,
works. Not well sometimes -- the frequent Flash install error messages are a
new thing -- but I can live with them. I install new s/w only very seldom and
very carefully and only after tinking through whether (or not) I really need
it. Most of the time I decide on the status quo.

Funny thing. Once I was a "computer guru." I could (and did) program rings
around other people on the IBM 650, 704, 1620. In 1961 I even wrote what may be
the very first computer baseball simulation program on the IBM 1620. In 20,000
positions (not bytes) of memory! But the technology has become a soup bucket,
and keeping up no longer worth my time and effort. Now I'm just a dumb user.
Sheeesh! <grin>

I appreciate your responses, even if (so far) they have not solved the problem.

John (Burgy)

hope this helps.
davexnet - 26 Jul 2008 22:46 GMT
The best way to set it up so that it stops bothering you (is that what you're
trying to do?)
Is to install it, and if you're using IE 7. you can get into "manage add-ons"
and disable it.

If you're using ie6, you can set the kill bits manually in the registry.  I've
done it myself, it does work.
HossRadbourne - 28 Jul 2008 15:53 GMT
Thanks, Davexnet:

You wrote: "The best way to set it up so that it stops bothering you (is that
what you're trying to do?)
Is to install it, and if you're using IE 7. you can get into "manage add-ons"
and disable it."

My problem is that I CAN'T install it.

"If you're using ie6, you can set the kill bits manually in the registry. I've
done it myself, it does work. "

Now THAT is scarey! Like doing heart surgery!

See my next post however.
Ray_Lea - 27 Jul 2008 02:16 GMT
This might sound a bit funny but it is true you need to first uninstall it
somehow it has become damaged and will not let you update it,  it has happened
to me you can download the uninstaller here:-
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_player.ex
e
HossRadbourne - 28 Jul 2008 15:57 GMT
Thanks, Ray_Lea:

You wrote: "This might sound a bit funny but it is true you need to first
uninstall it somehow it has become damaged and will not let you update it, it
has happened to me you can download the uninstaller here:-
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/uninstall"

Although Flsah does not appear on my PROGRAMS report, I followed this link.

When I ran it it reported that it had run successfully and that certain files
(I did not make a note of them) had been deleted.

Perhaps the problem HAS been solved!

Thank you for the help.

John (who is not Hoss Radbourne, but admires his baseball record)
CHAOS'|nc. - 28 Jul 2008 19:38 GMT
Delete the current player from add remove and install the latest one, restart and enjoy.
HossRadbourne - 28 Jul 2008 20:09 GMT
[q][i]Originally posted by: [b][b]CHAOS'|nc.[/b][/b][/i]
Delete the current player from add remove and install the latest one, restart
and enjoy.[/q]

That was the first thing I tried. But Add/Remove did not show a reference to
the player.

But the recent (3 posts up) suggestion to run a particular program to
uninstall apparently did the job. At least for now.

Thanks.

John
 
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