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dj2321 - 17 Dec 2003 19:01 GMT

I am currently in the build process of an app using .NET and using XML to talk back and forth between Flash and the Databases. Basically .NET pages create XML feeds that I parse through in Flash for the data and display the data in a Flash front end.

Someone had suggested to me that it would be faster and easier to use Flash Remoting. Is this true and should that be the way I go? I have never used flash Remoting but have used XML a lot of times before and am very comfortable with it.

I know there is some slow down using XML, would Remoting make that big of a difference in displaying the data to the end user?

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dutcheese - 17 Dec 2003 19:36 GMT

hi,

with remoting you can eliminate the middleman of xml and pull the database results right from the query results. i use coldfusion and remoting and it works great. had trouble getting sample code though and had to really read the online manuals so you would have a learning curve that will increase your production time the first time around but shorten production time in the future.

dutcheese

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dj2321 - 17 Dec 2003 20:08 GMT

So I would be eliminating the need for XML then, correct?
Could I use Remoting to connect and gather data from XML?

Thanks for the help

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Leland - 21 Dec 2003 15:46 GMT

check this out before you decide...

http://www.flashorb.com/articles/soap_vs_flash_remoting_benchmark.shtml

but based on the numbers there I am never using webservices again until
they fix this crap. actually i am considering taking up an entirely new
field after working with flash for 5 years now. the crap that macromedia
keeps dishing out is really getting to me at this point.

> So I would be eliminating the need for XML then, correct?
> Could I use Remoting to connect and gather data from XML?
>
> Thanks for the help

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dutcheese - 22 Dec 2003 22:08 GMT

well that was one long article just to say there was a memory leak in SOAP that was fixed by a patch...

but the article, at the very end, does say "the Flash Remoting approach is by far more stable and has better performance" than SOAP.

you wouldn't use SOAP anyway... as ASP uses AMF (action message format), not SOAP, to perform the remoting. as explained in this document...
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flashremoting/mx/Using_Flash_Remoting_MX/intro2.h
tm#1176427

here is a quote by Tom Muck... "..if you do have access to the server, you won't want to use SOAP..."
http://www.flash-remoting.com/articles/fr2004pt1.cfm

and here .... "The use of verbose XML in SOAP, for example, makes a web service call using SOAP about 400 percent bigger than a similar call to a Flash Remoting service, which uses a terse binary format (AMF or Action Message Format)."
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/javascript/2003/09/16/flashremoting.html

and finally... here is an article that discusses asp and remoting...
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/flashremoting/articles/intro_flremoting_net.html

enjoy,
dutcheese

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Leland - 26 Dec 2003 13:59 GMT

presumably fixed cheese...i haven't seen a benchmark after the update to
show that they actually did fix the leak. it has been my experience that
macromedia says a lot, but doesn't always do.

> well that was one long article just to say there was a memory leak in SOAP that was fixed by a patch...
>
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> enjoy,
> dutcheese

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