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Webmaster Forum / HTML, CSS, Scripts / CSS / February 2008alignment using CSS
Hi, I am trying to align a couple of rows of data/label using CSS and am failing. I tried to use span with width but soon realized can't assign width to inline elements. I am trying to do something like: label1 (100px;left-margin:10px) value 1 (200px) label2 (100px) value2 (200px, right margin:10px) Repeat the above so that all labels and values line up. Thanks. > I am trying to do something like: > > label1 (100px;left-margin:10px) value 1 (200px) label2 > (100px) value2 (200px, right margin:10px) > > Repeat the above so that all labels and values line up. It looks suspiciously like tabular data. If it is, why don't you use a table? That's what it's for.  SignatureBerg > ashkaa...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > Berg It is actually a form. That's why I did not want to use tables. If I was merely displaying data, I would have used a table. It is for asp.net page, the data comes from the database. I just want to line up the labels and data without using tables. If it is not possible, or does not make sense, then I will use table, but I thought it was discouraged to do so. In article <06d32acd-dfc6-4e94-bec4-b3d4b01c32bd@p43g2000hsc.googlegroups.co m>, > > ashkaa...@hotmail.com wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > possible, or does not make sense, then I will use table, but I thought > it was discouraged to do so. It is possible and it does make sense but you still should use a table because it makes more sense to do this. It is like this. If you are discouraged from using a hammer and well-aimed chisel on an accessible-by-spanner nut, this does not mean that you should use a hammer and chisel on an accessible-by-spanner nut on a motor bike or boat or washing machine. Signaturedorayme > It is possible and it does make sense but you still should use a > table because it makes more sense to do this. It is like this. If > you are discouraged from using a hammer and well-aimed chisel on > an accessible-by-spanner nut, this does not mean that you should > use a hammer and chisel on an accessible-by-spanner nut on a > motor bike or boat or washing machine. What? > > It is possible and it does make sense but you still should use a > > table because it makes more sense to do this. It is like this. If [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What? I am not going to explain this! Unless you put up some dough and we have a fair referee (how about Luigi?) that you get it back if I cannot make the analogy good. <g> Signaturedorayme >> > It is possible and it does make sense but you still should use a >> > table because it makes more sense to do this. It is like this. If [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > we have a fair referee (how about Luigi?) that you get it back if > I cannot make the analogy good. <g> There *must* be some words missing. The paragraph appears to be incomplete and self contradictory. No wonder the OP is confused :-) OP: Simple, if it's tablular data then use a table. At the extreme, if all else fails and you still can't do what you want then use a table. To use doraymes analogy (I think), sometimes there simply is not a spannar available to fit that bolt. SignatureRichard. > >> > It is possible and it does make sense but you still should use a > >> > table because it makes more sense to do this. It is like this. If [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > There *must* be some words missing. The paragraph appears to be incomplete > and self contradictory. No wonder the OP is confused :-) Lets see, maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong. Let us parse it together. Before we begin, please everybody, get off your knees! I said "parse" not "pray. Geez! OP said "If it is not possible, or does not make sense, then I will use table, but I thought it was discouraged to do so." I then said: "It is possible and it does make sense but you still should use a table because it makes more sense to do this. It is like this." No trouble there, surely? "If you are discouraged from using a hammer and well-aimed chisel on an accessible-by-spanner nut," An *in*accessible-by-spanner nut would be one which is hard to get at and needing other than a spanner. OK? Other than a spanner would be, for example, a chisel angled and placed carefully on the nut and whacked with a hammer to loosen the thing. No one would advise this brutality towards a nut that was easily accessible by spanner. Right? It would be correct to discourage such a thing. Just as we tend to advise people not to use a table when other means of laying out non-tabular data are to be had. The other means are the spanner. So now you are invited to suppose in the sentence at this point that you have been so discouraged while working on your car. The car being a context. "this does not mean that you should use a hammer and chisel on an accessible-by-spanner nut on a motor bike or boat or washing machine". At this point, Richard, I concede an unhappiness in my writing. I could have done this better. OK? But it still makes sense, it is not contradictory. OP, having been advised not to use tables in one context seems to think that when the context changes a bit (laying out forms from laying out other divisions of a webpage) the good advice to use tables for tabular data and not otherwise does not apply any more. The advice that was applicable to a car is also applicable to a washing machine in respect to the tools for nuts. Signaturedorayme > In article > <06d32acd-dfc6-4e94-bec4-b3d4b01c3...@p43g2000hsc.googlegroups.co [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > - Show quoted text - OK, I am totally confused now. I hear that it is good design not to use tables when I am not just displaying data (where it makes sense to use tables.) Also, to comply with section 508 (I think it is 508), use of tables is also discouraged since some readers have diffciulty reading tables. But now I am being told it is OK to use tables, even if I am not just displaying data. Should I, ot shouldn't I, use CSS if all I am doing is aligning a bunch of controls (labels, dropdowns, textboxes, ..) on a page? In article <ecfc5606-2cd2-40a9-965b-48de3d731655@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m>, > > In article > > <06d32acd-dfc6-4e94-bec4-b3d4b01c3...@p43g2000hsc.googlegroups.co [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > is aligning a bunch of controls (labels, dropdowns, textboxes, ..) on > a page? Well, you were told in an early response here, yes. I say yes too. Who is telling you otherwise specifically for this situation? You see, it is your "even if I am not just displaying data" that I was focussing on. Let me put it as I understand it. Just because you are not JUST displaying data, does not mean you should not use tables. Why should it? If you are displaying tables - even if you are also doing something else as well, eg. eliciting replies in a form, or whatever, tables are, prima facie, the tool to use. You need an argument for *not* using them. And your "I hear that it is good design not to use tables when I am not just displaying data" is not much of an argument. Perhaps I am reading you in a way that others are not reading you? I don't know. I am sorry to have caused any confusion. Signaturedorayme In article <doraymeRidThis-39CD08.18231027022008@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>, > If you are displaying > tables "data" not "tables"... sorry a typo... (it is getting late in the day and I am having a ticklish problem with IE 6 that is exhausting me...) Signaturedorayme > OK, I am totally confused now. I hear that it is good design not to > use tables > But now I am being told it is OK to use tables, even if I am not just > displaying data. It's not simply an issue of "just displaying data". It's an issue of relationships. If there is a relationship between the rows and/or columns, then consider it tabular data. > Should I, ot shouldn't I, use CSS if all I am doing > is aligning a bunch of controls (labels, dropdowns, textboxes, ..) on > a page? Some argue that forms are not tabular data, but that's a matter of opinion. There is a relationship between a form label, and its control, isn't there? If you put in a column header for "labels" and one for "data" it all makes sense, does it not? I'd use a table. SignatureBerg > ashkaa...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > -- > Berg OK, it seems the popular consensu is to use tables to align labels and controls in a form. If I didn't know, I would think I was visiting "comp.infosystem.www.authoring.tables" newsgroup! :) In article <5cc1d29e-18c7-45bf-a710-37522e2e2fd5@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.co m>, > OK, it seems the popular consensu is to use tables to align labels and > controls in a form. If I didn't know, I would think I was visiting > "comp.infosystem.www.authoring.tables" newsgroup! :) Like feeling you are meeting an established religion when talking to a group of atheists? This feeling is a confusion of thought. Signaturedorayme > Hi, > I am trying to align a couple of rows of data/label using CSS and am [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > label1 (100px;left-margin:10px) value 1 (200px) label2 > (100px) value2 (200px, right margin:10px) What is this? It is neither html nor css... > Repeat the above so that all labels and values line up. How about a url to what you are attempting rather than your pseudocode? SignatureTake care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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