> As someone once asked me when I gave a similar response: Where do you
> see "CSS" in the name of the newsgroup?
Group created: 1997
>From the ciwas charter: <q>This unmoderated news group is intended for
the discussion of Web style sheets.</q>
You want to tell me that "Web style sheets" above doesn't mean
Cascading Style Sheets?
> XSL does, after all, stand for "Extensible *Stylesheet* Language". And,
> yes, it's very *much* used for page layout, and correctly so in terms of
> generating the final HTML.
So you mean that ciwas is ready to deal with XSLT transformers, XPath,
namespaces, internal and external DTD's (the real one) and validation
schemas? That is a challenging statement - but I do /not/ say that it's
wrong. That would be a great move actually. If you have a consensus
with this group cabbal, then just roll. :-)
Harlan Messinger - 25 May 2006 03:51 GMT
>> As someone once asked me when I gave a similar response: Where do you
>> see "CSS" in the name of the newsgroup?
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> You want to tell me that "Web style sheets" above doesn't mean
> Cascading Style Sheets?
Why would it be clear to you that a newsgroup's purpose is more
restrictive than its name implies? XSL documents are stylesheets, by
definition, and they are used to style documents on the web. On the
contrary, I would have expected that if only CSS were to be discussed,
this would be c.i.w.a.css.
>> XSL does, after all, stand for "Extensible *Stylesheet* Language". And,
>> yes, it's very *much* used for page layout, and correctly so in terms of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> namespaces, internal and external DTD's (the real one) and validation
> schemas? That is a challenging statement
Why? What kind of "readiness" is entailed?
- but I do /not/ say that it's
> wrong. That would be a great move actually. If you have a consensus
> with this group cabbal,
Not a requirement. Unmoderated newsgroups don't have owners.
> then just roll. :-)
ironcorona - 25 May 2006 04:10 GMT
>> As someone once asked me when I gave a similar response: Where do you
>> see "CSS" in the name of the newsgroup?
>
> Group created: 1997
>>From the ciwas charter: <q>This unmoderated news group is intended for
> the discussion of Web style sheets.</q>
You might want to read question 2 in the charter
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/www/stylesheets/newsgroup-faq/
02: ===== Q & A =====
Q: What kinds of posts are acceptable in this news group ?
A: Topics for this news group include:
* How to achieve a particular effect with style sheets,
* The relative advantages of different style sheet languages,
* Specifications versus implementations,
* Bugs and limitations in implementations, and
* Questions on XSL related subjects.

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VK - 25 May 2006 07:25 GMT
> You might want to read question 2 in the charter
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/www/stylesheets/newsgroup-faq/
Newsgroup FAQ are not a part of the group charter neither they are an
obligatory part of a newsgroup. This is an optional convenience info
source prepared by group volunteers. In the aspect of OT topics FAQ can
further clarify the group charter but it is not allowed to redefine
/overrride the charter.
The group charter is made by "IRA licence" : "once in, never out". Once
stored in news.announce.newgroups, the charter cannot be changed. If
a large amount of posts do not fit into newsgroup charter and there is
not another group better suited for such posts, anyone can initiate the
CFV (Call For Votes) process to create new "Big 8" group with the
corresponding charter.
ciwas charter is here:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images/browse_frm/
thread/9819da00c670fd84/8ba09874ea4d6fe9>
If XML+XSL transformations (XSLT) topics do fit into it (which would be
greate) then the problem is solved.
slacker - 30 May 2006 16:45 GMT
Pardon me, my bad. My question has been reposted to
microsoft.public.xsl, but I will use your suggested group as well.
Apologies for the inconvienence.
Nelson
Jack - 30 May 2006 18:16 GMT
> ciwas charter is here:
> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images/browse_frm/
thread/9819da00c670fd84/8ba09874ea4d6fe9>
>
> If XML+XSL transformations (XSLT) topics do fit into it (which would
> be greate) then the problem is solved.
I'm not sure what the fuss is about.
> At this time, the most popular stylesheet language is CSS1 (Cascading
> Style Sheets, level 1), but it is expected that other languages will
> also be supported in the future.
That seems quite unambiguous; the newsgroup is for discussion of
stylesheets as used on the web, independent of language.
Meanwhile, if you think it would be "greate" if this group covered XSLT,
then why where you whingeing to the effect that the OP's inquiry was
off-topic, just a few posts back?
You said:
> That is in a direct connection with CSS stylesheets and page layout?

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