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Steve Fulton - 30 Jul 2005 12:51 GMT

People who hate Microsoft simply because it *is* Microsoft can skip
this but people who hate MS for producing such a crappy browser might
be interested in
<http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx>

Of course, this being MS, you have to take everything with a grain of
salt.

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Rincewind - 30 Jul 2005 14:50 GMT

> People who hate Microsoft simply because it *is* Microsoft can skip
> this but people who hate MS for producing such a crappy browser might
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> Of course, this being MS, you have to take everything with a grain of
> salt.

So they are going to try to fix some bugs, aren't going to try to fix some
other bugs, and if Microsoft's history is anything to go by there will
invariably be even more bugs added.

Why are they bothering with a release when there,

Quote "intent is to build a platform that fully complies with the
appropriate web standards" Unquote

when other browser developers are already doing this. Surely with MS's
resources they should be more than capable of this already.

As for there mission statement, Quote "our top priority is (and will likely
always be) security" Unquote, This had me checking my calendar to see if
the date was April 1st, surely this must be a joke, it's no surprise then
that MS software is generally so buggy and bloated, when they can't even
get close to reaching the goal of there top priority.

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Stan Brown - 31 Jul 2005 18:26 GMT

>People who hate Microsoft simply because it *is* Microsoft can skip
>this but people who hate MS for producing such a crappy browser might
>be interested in
><http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx>

"I wanted to make it clear that we know Beta 1 makes little progress
for web developers in improving our standards support, particularly
in our CSS implementation."

I'm confused -- how exactly does this support your apparent case
that Microsoft is making its crappy browser less crappy?

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Martin Honnen - 31 Jul 2005 19:19 GMT

> "I wanted to make it clear that we know Beta 1 makes little progress
> for web developers in improving our standards support, particularly
> in our CSS implementation."
>
> I'm confused -- how exactly does this support your apparent case
> that Microsoft is making its crappy browser less crappy?

But that blog entry goes on to tell about things they are working on and
lists stuff like (I am only listing CSS related stuff)
CSS 2.1 Selector support (child, adjacent, attribute, first-child etc.)
CSS 2.1 Fixed positioning
Fix :hover on all elements
Background-attachment: fixed on all elements not just body

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