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OT: How to kill 'amos'?

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Jan Roland Eriksson - 28 Apr 2005 00:46 GMT
This 'amos' Googlenut spammer needs to be taken out of service.

Any ideas on how to do that since it appears that Google does not care
about the issue.

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty - 28 Apr 2005 01:47 GMT
> This 'amos' Googlenut spammer needs to be taken out of service.
>
> Any ideas on how to do that since it appears that Google does not care
> about the issue.

Would you say amos is a bot?  Seems to be pretty close to every
fifteen minutes, all day long.

I reported amos to the abuse address several hours ago. Got back the
following response. We ought to start flooding their abuse address.

From: groups-support@google.com
Subject: Re: [#25358583] Abuse by "amos"
Message-ID: <#14.182f0f7.60175131.426fc50e.831@google.trakken.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:59:58 -0000
User-Agent: Neotonic Trakken/0.0-DEBUG
Precedence: bulk
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied

Thank you for your note. Google does not regularly monitor or censor
postings sent to Google Groups, but we do try to prevent wide-scale
spam and other forms of Usenet abuse. Please be assured that the
information you sent to us is being collected and taken into account.
While we understand how annoying off-topic posts can be, we aren't
able to pursue most complaints we receive about them. We are using the
information you provide to make large-scale improvements in preventing
abuse. We appreciate your help in our efforts to increase the quality
of Google Groups.

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Michael Vilain - 28 Apr 2005 07:19 GMT
> > This 'amos' Googlenut spammer needs to be taken out of service.
> >
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> abuse. We appreciate your help in our efforts to increase the quality
> of Google Groups.

Well, google may be posting this spew to news groups, but they're not
hosting the spewer.  There are a number of posters who are using google
to post their spew to newsgroups with impunity.  I think this must
change but I'm at a loss as to how to get google to pay attention to
this problem.  Their standard response is that it's not their problem.  
I personally think someone should send Guido over to Google's corporate
offices to adjust this attitude.  And send a bunch of Guido's associates
to AOL, who hosts many of these people.

As to what to do for amos, I've kill filed him.  And I've emailed the
abuse address for the IP he posted from and yahoo.com.tw.  Usually,
yahoo's free email accounts are shutdown fairly quickly.

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Michael Rozdoba - 28 Apr 2005 14:21 GMT
> As to what to do for amos, I've kill filed him.  And I've emailed the
> abuse address for the IP he posted from and yahoo.com.tw.  Usually,
> yahoo's free email accounts are shutdown fairly quickly.

I've also complained to <various>@atjeu.com

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Tony - 28 Apr 2005 16:57 GMT
> Well, google may be posting this spew to news groups, but they're not
> hosting the spewer.  There are a number of posters who are using google
> to post their spew to newsgroups with impunity.  I think this must
> change but I'm at a loss as to how to get google to pay attention to
> this problem.  Their standard response is that it's not their problem.

Couldn't someone do pretty much the same thing by hosting their own
webserver, or using less-controlled public or anonymous news servers? I
don't really see what google CAN do, realistically, about it. (Unless I'm
missing something about this discussion, which I'll freely admit is
possible)

> I personally think someone should send Guido over to Google's corporate
> offices to adjust this attitude.  And send a bunch of Guido's associates
> to AOL, who hosts many of these people.

I think we should send Guido & company to AOL just on general principle :)
Stan Brown - 28 Apr 2005 23:57 GMT
"Michael Vilain" wrote in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:
>Well, google may be posting this spew to news groups, but they're not
>hosting the spewer.  There are a number of posters who are using google
>to post their spew to newsgroups with impunity.

Interestingly, news.individual.net doesn't even show the 'amos'
articles.

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Gus Richter - 28 Apr 2005 19:37 GMT
> This 'amos' Googlenut spammer needs to be taken out of service.
>
> Any ideas on how to do that since it appears that Google does not care
> about the issue.

You won't get any help from Google since:

APNIC advises that 59.114.169.52 originates from Taipei, Taiwan and the
IP server is Chunghwa Telecom CO., Ltd.

Direct your Spam Abuse reports to:  spam@ms1.hinet.net

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Gus Richter - 28 Apr 2005 19:43 GMT
>> This 'amos' Googlenut spammer needs to be taken out of service.
>>
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>
> Direct your Spam Abuse reports to:  spam@ms1.hinet.net

Out of curiosity I checked the IP addresses of a few other Amoses and I
found different IP numbers for other Amos messages. Here are some:
59.114.174.11
59.114.33.74
59.114.171.228
59.114.39.224

They all originate from the same IP server nonetheless and Spam Abuse
Reports should still be directed to  spam@ms1.hinet.net

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