"Virtual" browser testing ?

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James Sleeman - 30 Jun 2003 05:22 GMT

Hi all,
as much as we all would like to have browsers totally equal, fact is they
are not and whatever we do, especially in terms of CSS generally needs to
be checked on the different browsers and also the same browsers on
different platforms (Mac, Win, Lin primarily).

The Win and Lin bit I have covered. The Mac bit is difficult because I
don't have a mac, can't really afford to buy a decent mac right now, and
you can't emulate a PowerMac on my x86 hardware.

This wasn't a problem previously because I had a Mac at my disposal at my
workplace, but I'm now freelancing, so no iMac for James to swear at :-(

Now, a few years ago I vaguely remember an outfit on the web where you could
do some sort of "virtual Mac" testing. I don't remember if it was
interactive or if you just submitted a URL and it returned a screenshot. I
don't remember what it was called. A bit of googling doesn't shed any
light on the matter either.

Does anybody remeber this or know of something similar?

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Arve Bersvendsen - 30 Jun 2003 06:47 GMT

> I don't remember if it was interactive or if you just submitted a
> URL and it returned a screenshot.

...

> Does anybody remeber this or know of something similar?

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Bertilo Wennergren - 30 Jun 2003 14:18 GMT

James Sleeman:

> as much as we all would like to have browsers totally equal,

Would we?

There are lots of different people outh there, with very different needs and
preferences. They need different kinds of browsers. It is a good thing if
browsers become different, so all those people get more choices.

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James Sleeman - 30 Jun 2003 14:21 GMT

> James Sleeman:
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> and preferences. They need different kinds of browsers. It is a good thing
> if browsers become different, so all those people get more choices.

What I meant was we would like to have browsers implement standards
correctly, and thus do predictable and graceful things.

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Bertilo Wennergren - 30 Jun 2003 16:21 GMT

James Sleeman:

>> James Sleeman:

>>> as much as we all would like to have browsers totally equal,

>> Would we?

>> There are lots of different people outh there, with very different needs
>> and preferences. They need different kinds of browsers. It is a good
>> thing if browsers become different, so all those people get more choices.

> What I meant was we would like to have browsers implement standards
> correctly, and thus do predictable and graceful things.

Good. But that would not make them totally equal.

Standards-complianta browsers would however not do predictable things all
the time. For CSS there are things like user style sheets (and user
preferences) that would make such browsers do very unpredictable things.
Uses style sheets are already with us (MSIE, Mozilla, Opera...). That's
very good.

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