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Webmaster Forum / ColdFusion / Getting Started / July 2006CF7 trial won't install on Windows 2003 Server
I have tried about 40 times to install CF 7.01 trial on multiple Windows 2003 Server SP1 machines and it constantly fails (except for 3 times) with the same two errors in the log file. Macromedia refuse to help on the phone unless I pay $500 to report the bug! What other company charges $500 so you can tell them about a bug in their software? They simply aren't interested in helping even though I've committed to a major project based on the CF platform. I will have to rethink this and start looking at .NET or Blue Dragon if Macromedia don't come to their senses. Please http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=143&thre adid=1018001#3880615 regarding error messages and setup config. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=143&thre adid=1018001#3880615 :brokenheart; Gary - CF developer for 9 years Your problem is with the installation so you wouldn't be charged for opening an incident. There have been many problems with installations on Windows 2003 with SP1 due to the many security restrictions. We've even seen differences depending on whether SP1 came with the Windows installation or added afterwards. Anyway one of the things you should try is making sure Everyone has read permissions on the drive you're installing to or create the CFusionMX7 directory prior to the install and give it read permissions. Also you might consider installing to the built in web server and then running the connector after the install. Ted Zimmerman Ted, I've already given the installation directory (c:\jrun4) Everyone/Full Control permissions prior to installtion but it didn't help. The Web Connector throws JNDI errors if I run it after a failed configuration. I also tried installing using the built-in web server but that fails as well with the ANT Script error I documented in my other thread. If you are sure that I won't be charged for help then I will call them back and tell them you said I won't be charged. I hope you don't mind but they were very insistant that they take my credit card details. Regards, Gary They told me the exact same thing...$500 to open up a problem for an installation. I never heard about a company chage for an installation problem. All I keep getting from people...is check the ports....check the ports. I have truned off every firewall, virus software and everything else but keep hearing check the ports. Does anyone have a full proof way of making sure a port is not blocked.... I am using XP SP2 ... anyone...anyone... Customer: I'd like to take one of your new cars out for a test drive please. Showroom: Sure, you can have it for 30 days. Customer: Wow, thanks. <pushes start button> (Hey, it's high tech!) <BRRR. BRRR. BRRR> Customer: Excuse me, it won't start! Showroom: Oh. Well, our engineers can help you. Customer: Okay, can you call one over for me? Showroom: That will be $500 first please. Or if you buy the car we can help for free. Customer: What??? This just doesn't happen in the real world whether it's a $20,000 car or a $50 radio control car on demo in a toy shop. Russ, it felt like what you said is true. You've got to flash the waiter a bulging wallet before he comes over to serve you! Years ago I went into a BMW showroom in a pair of jeans (I looked quite young) and the salesmen ignored me while I was there for 20 mins. I left infuriated because I wanted to buy one. The moral of this story is you can't judge every customer on first appearances. Someone who wants to run CF Trial and has problems with it and a nightware getting support could be the guy who reports back to his boss to warn him not to invest $50,000 on CF technology. Tombraider - Are you also trying with Win2003 with SP1 built-in to the installation media? I've not seen those errors before but during the problematic installations Jrun would refuse to start afterwards. Can I suggest trying a clean Windows installation without any other software or extras running, assuming you haven't tried that already. I'm using VMware too (Workstation 5.5) and CF works fine now that the installation hell is out of the way. Blaster - I've installed 7.0 onto XP with SP2 and 7.01 onto XP with SP1 without problems. Have you disabled Windows Firewall? You can do this from the Control Panel but also that from your Network settings for every connection Internet Sharing is turned off. If you haven't installed any Firewall or Anti Virus software of your own then it should install perfectly onto XP + SP2. If you have a spare machine trying installing XP again and then CF. I have experienced problems with this procedure to install CFMX 7.0 under Win2003. I have a different solultion that I would like to suggest to you. I downloaded the trial version of CFMX 7.0.1 from the Macromedia website and entered my serial number and Apache information into the fields as the installer progressed. It installed correctly under Win2003. It correctly configured Apache webserver software. It correctly identified my version as Full, Standard Edition. I have installed our company's program, configured it and our website runs under CFMX 7.0.1 It seems that everyone gets the same software from Macromedia. If you have a serial number, you get the functionality enabled. If you have no serial number, you get the trial version functionality enabled. Let us know if you have any success with this idea. there is no trial functionality or even trial sofwtare. It doesn't make any difference if you enter a license key or not, you still get the same version of the software with all features, it simply only works for 30 days and then reverts to the developer version. everyone installs the same software. > I have tried about 40 times to install CF 7.01 trial on multiple Windows 2003 > Server SP1 machines and it constantly fails (except for 3 times) with the same [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to rethink this and start looking at .NET or Blue Dragon if Macromedia don't > come to their senses. I don't know if this relates to your problem or not, but on Windows Server 2003 with SP1 there is a new Data Execution Prevention feature and when I've installed CF on W2K3 I've had to explicitly enable the installer to allow to be executed in order for it to complete the install successfully. Go to Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Performance -> Data Execution Prevention and see what's there. You may see the installer already listed there, in which case you just need to enable it. If not you can add it to the list of programs that are allowed to execute. Again, not sure if that's related to your problem or not, but that's the only issue I've ever run into installing CF on W2K3. Matt  SignatureMatt Woodward mpwoodward@gmail.com Team Macromedia - ColdFusion Matt, thanks but I already tried that. Someone pointed out a technote relating to any JRun installation (inc CF6.1 and Flex) that needed DEP disabled but unfortunately it didn't work. Okay, it worked once but not the other 5 times I tried to repeat the installation with DEP disabled for the installer. Whenever I do get a good install I can never repeat it using the same options and settings. It's so random. It's this 90% failure that scares me. Deploying a major project based on unreliable software is a no-no in anyone's book. I called Macromedia and the REFUSE TO HELP ME! I even said that Ted Zimmerman said I can get free support and they said no. I told them the nature of my project (very high profile) and they still refused to help. The bottom line is, they say, if you have a trial copy we cannot provide support. Why the heck should I buy a license if the product won't install? Ted - please help! I have the solution! The fault lies exclusively in the CF installer which for some reason is not very compatible with the changes that Win2003 SP1 has brought about. First I must thank Andy Allen from the Scottish CF User Group for putting me in touch with Macromedia's CF product management. Then, thanks to Nick Watson for spending close to 6 hours with me (by phone). He delivered a working solution to get CF7 installed after getting me to try several other ideas (and a dozen more installs! Why am I the lab rat?). To install CF7 on Windows Server 2003 with SP1 built-in (as in "not applied afterwards") you need to perform a silent installation of CF and configure IIS afterwards. Run the CF install file from a command line (DOS box) with "?f silent.properties" and it will take 2 mins to install. Silent.properties is a file that you must create using a text editor. See this technote for details: http://www.macromedia.com/go/87bd20f4 Notice how quick the silent install is, much faster than the standard installation and more reliable too. (It takes about a minute although it doesn't tell you when it's done.) I suggest Macromedia get rid of their current installer and use a simple front end which runs a silent install from a script. The current installer is not very good, as other people have said in these forums. Then run Web Server Config Tool from START/progs/Macromedia/blah... Add IIS and select the checkbox (config web server for CF MX apps). OK. The service Macromedia JRun Admin Server can be stopped and set to manual as it is not required when using multiserver installs (if that's what you're doing). New instances can be created directly from the CF Admin web interface. It will mean there?s 1 less service running, less to hack, and saves memory. (This advice also from Nick) Copy the CFIDE and CFDOCS directory as described in this document: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/ wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentation&file=00000049.htm#1175085 It also explains more about using the Web Config tool. To disable the built-in web service (which you should do if you're using IIS or some other web server) edit C:\jrun4\servers\cfusion\SERVER-INF\jrun.xml and add the ?deactivated? line to this section as shown here: <service class="jrun.servlet.http.WebService" name="WebService"> <attribute name="port">8500</attribute> <attribute name="interface">*</attribute> <attribute name="deactivated">true</attribute> <attribute name="activeHandlerThreads">10</attribute> <attribute name="minHandlerThreads">20</attribute> <attribute name="threadWaitTimeout">300</attribute> </service> Restart CF after saving changes. More info on the XML file here: http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/adv_development/config_builtin_webs erver/config_builtin_webserver03.html That?s it. It's by no means an ideal solution and Macromedia should have had this covered and fully documented as a technote and listened to customers when they call up saying they've found a major bug. Instead I was fobbed off endlessly for 2 days. If it weren't for the kind souls who took it upon themselves to help me out as a favour I would still be ramming my head against a brick wall and signing a license agreement with BlueDragon (which may not be a bad thing... to be continued!) Ted, I know you helped get things rolling too. Thanks. Yours 6-days-behind-schedule, Gary. Even worse, Gary, I DO have a license, I contacted Macromedia for their "free installation support" as tzimmerman mentioned, and received an email saying "Your issue goes beyond installation issues so I am unable to help you." Beyond installation? Are they daft?? This IS installation! Macromedia has completely dropped the ball here. I'm a little embarrassed to have been raving about them in the past. And thanks very much for taking the time to find a solution. I'm off to give it a shot myself. -Paul Basically Macromedia cannot be bothered to waste their time on anyone who is spending less than $50k. This admission came directly from one of their sales staff. Guys, There is some strict rules that we are all entitled to follow when it comes to free installation support. And I am sure that if you got bounced by Customer Service representative or by Macromedia Technician, they gave you an explanation and a reason why that happened. Basically there are two requirements for free installation support. First, you should have a license either Standard or Enterprise, and second you aren't able to access ColdFusion Administrator. As long as your case satisfies these two criteria, we will work with you however long it takes to get you going. You have to understand that we cannot provide the support to anyone who is just trying to install ColdFusion out of curiosity. Yes, there would definitely be people who would want to try it first without any financial responsibilities, and I understand that the fact that you have problems installing it may discourage you from further using it. But again, we cannot help anyone in the world; there are only so many of us here. Gary2, thanks for taking your time and getting it to work. PROPS to Gary2 !!! I was in the same boat but basically QUIT until I deceided to come back to the forums and see if anyone else was in the same pain. I took Garys advice to the "T" and CF finally installed like a Champ. SOOOO, I finally get this installed and appears to be running when I execute my first script and it throws up this: Server Error The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. JRun closed connection. Any ides? My error logs look like this: Starting Macromedia JRun 4.0 (Build 92909), coldfusion server 12/02 10:00:56 warning Unable to open C:\CfusionMX7\runtime/lib/license.properties 12/02 10:00:58 info JRun Naming Service listening on *:2920 12/02 10:00:59 warning No sessionSecret has been specified in jrun.xml. Installing a self generated sessionSecret. 12/02 10:01:00 info JRun Web Server listening on *:8500 An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM. Unexpected Signal : EXCEPTION_GUARD_PAGE (0x80000001) occurred at PC=0xA4418EE Function=Ordinal101+0x5B86 Library=C:\WINDOWS\system32\msjet40.dll Current Java thread: at com.inzoom.ado.Command.jniExecute(Native Method) at com.inzoom.ado.Command.execute(Command.java:40) at com.inzoom.jdbcado.Statement.exec(Statement.java:34) at com.inzoom.jdbcado.Statement.execute(Statement.java:107) - locked <0x1009ec58> (a com.inzoom.jdbcado.MSJetConnection) - locked <0x100a7bc8> (a com.inzoom.jdbcado.Statement) at coldfusion.server.j2ee.sql.JRunStatement.execute(JRunStatement.java:212) at coldfusion.sql.Executive.executeQuery(Executive.java:719) at coldfusion.sql.Executive.executeQuery(Executive.java:652) at coldfusion.sql.Executive.executeQuery(Executive.java:613) at coldfusion.sql.SqlImpl.execute(SqlImpl.java:236) at coldfusion.tagext.sql.QueryTag.doEndTag(QueryTag.java:499) at cfresults2ecfm735180195.runPage(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\ControlCenter\results.cfm:27) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:152) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:349) at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65) at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:210) at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:51) at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86) at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:69) at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilt er.java:28) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22) at coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke(RequestThrottleFilter.java:115) at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:107) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:78) at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91) at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42) at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:257) at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:541) at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:204) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:318) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:426) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:264) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) Heap at VM Abort: Heap PSYoungGen total 4096K, used 610K [0x10010000, 0x104c0000, 0x138f0000) eden space 3392K, 18% used [0x10010000,0x100a8ba0,0x10360000) from space 704K, 0% used [0x10410000,0x10410000,0x104c0000) to space 704K, 0% used [0x10360000,0x10360000,0x10410000) PSOldGen total 15488K, used 11853K [0x138f0000, 0x14810000, 0x30010000) object space 15488K, 76% used [0x138f0000,0x144837f0,0x14810000) PSPermGen total 28672K, used 23775K [0x30010000, 0x31c10000, 0x38010000) object space 28672K, 82% used [0x30010000,0x31747e00,0x31c10000) Local Time = Fri Dec 02 10:13:07 2005 Elapsed Time = 738 # # The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (1.4.2_05-b04 mixed mode) # space 3392K, 18% used space 704K, 0% used space 704K, 0% used space 15488K, 76% used space 28672K, 82% used# An error report file has been saved as hs_err_pid2648.log. # Please refer to the file for further information. # Starting Macromedia JRun 4.0 (Build 92909), coldfusion server 12/02 10:13:13 warning Unable to open C:\CfusionMX7\runtime/lib/license.properties 12/02 10:13:15 info JRun Naming Service listening on *:2920 12/02 10:13:15 warning No sessionSecret has been specified in jrun.xml. Installing a self generated sessionSecret. 12/02 10:13:16 info No JDBC data sources have been configured for this server (see jrun-resources.xml) 12/02 10:13:16 info JRun Web Server listening on *:8500 12/02 10:13:16 info JRun Proxy Server listening on *:51011 12/02 10:13:16 info Deploying enterprise application "Macromedia ColdFusion MX" from: file:/C:/CfusionMX7/ 12/02 10:13:16 info Deploying web application "Macromedia Coldfusion MX" from: file:/C:/CfusionMX7/ 12/02 10:13:18 user JSPServlet: init 12/02 10:13:18 INFO License Service: Flex 1.5 CF Edition enabled 12/02 10:13:18 INFO Starting Flex 1.5 CF Edition 12/02 10:13:19 user CFMxmlServlet: init 12/02 10:13:19 user CFMxmlServlet: Macromedia Flex Build: 87315.134646 12/02 10:13:19 INFO Macromedia Flex Build: 87315.134646 12/02 10:13:21 user ColdFusionStartUpServlet: init 12/02 10:13:21 user ColdFusionStartUpServlet: ColdFusion MX: Starting application services 12/02 10:13:21 user ColdFusionStartUpServlet: ColdFusion MX: VM version = 1.4.2_05-b04 12/02 10:13:21 Information [main] - Starting logging... 12/02 10:13:21 Information [main] - Starting crypto... 12/02 10:13:23 Information [main] - Starting license... 12/02 10:13:23 Information [main] - Starting License server ... 12/02 10:13:23 Information [main] - Starting scheduler... 12/02 10:13:23 Information [main] - Starting WatchService... 12/02 10:13:23 Information [main] - Starting debugging... 12/02 10:13:23 Information [main] - Starting sql... 12/02 10:13:23 Information [main] - Pool Manager Started 12/02 10:13:23 Information [main] - Starting mail... 12/02 10:13:27 Information [main] - CORBA Configuration not enabled 12/02 10:13:27 Information [main] - Starting cron... 12/02 10:13:27 Information [main] - Starting registry... 12/02 10:13:27 Information [main] - Starting client... 12/02 10:13:27 Information [main] - Starting xmlrpc... 12/02 10:13:27 Information [main] - Starting graphing... 12/02 10:13:28 Information [main] - Starting verity... 12/02 10:13:28 Information [main] - Starting archive... 12/02 10:13:28 Information [main] - Starting document... 12/02 10:13:30 Information [main] - Starting eventgateway... 12/02 10:13:32 Information [main] - Starting Event Backend Handlers 12/02 10:13:32 Information [main] - Initialized EventRequestDispatcher with a Thread Pool size of 10 12/02 10:13:32 Information [main] - Initializing EventRequestHandler 12/02 10:13:32 Information [main] - Starting Event Gateways 12/02 10:13:32 Information [main] - ColdFusion started 12/02 10:13:32 user ColdFusionStartUpServlet: ColdFusion MX: application services are now available 12/02 10:13:32 user CFSwfServlet: init 12/02 10:13:32 user CFCServlet: init 12/02 10:13:33 user FlashGateway: init Server coldfusion ready (startup time: 23 seconds) 12/02 10:13:33 user CFFormGateway: init 12/02 10:13:33 user CFInternalServlet: init I am using VM ware. Is this an issue? Any help would be greatful. I tried to follow the above steps but the wsconfig wouldn't run. It said CF wasn't running. This was true, I couldn't start cf. If I can't start CF, what steps should I follow? Do I need to follow different rules? Frankly, I'm not sure how I can back out of SP2 on this laptop running Windows XP Media Edition. Any links would help me out. CFMX 6.1 runs fine. I was running CF 7.01 just fine when it quit on me. Reinstallation didn't work. Again, any help would be much appreciated. Don Wow! I wanted to chime in really quickly here and offer my apologies for those of you who've had this issue and were unable to get support from Macromedia. Our criteria for free installation support are pretty concrete as dimaint stated -- see http://www.macromedia.com/support/programs/server_definitions.html. For the near term, this still applies under Adobe. I am shocked at the response you got from sales, Snake. I'm glad Nick was able to help find a resolution. The "official" resolution is the 7.01 installer -- the first CFMX release that officially support Windows 2003 SP 1 -- so it appears you have found a bonafide bug with the installer on your platform Gary2. I wonder if you or Nick have reported this bug with full platform details and reproductive steps? Again, my humlest apologies to anyone who's been denied support for any qualifying issue. Hopefully after the transition period your experiences with Adobe Support will be much improved. Sarge, we all know that we should have gotten some support but it's obvious that your employees in the sales and support office don't know! They are the most clueless and carless people that I've had the misfortune to come across for the whole of 2005. If I had the time I'd create a certificate saying so and mail it in to you so you can present it to them. And it doesn't end there. Last month I wanted to buy some CF licenses using your government discount scheme and the distributer I'm trying to buy from had to wait over 2 weeks to get a response from Macromedia to approve the sale! This still hasn't been approved as they now want more paperwork. So I can't even buy the damn product from you! Either everyone at Macromedia has been worried about redundancy and developed a "I don't give a cr*p" attitude" or Adobe have just bought the most useless sales and support team in the world! I am seriously worried about the future of ColdFusion if I've been unable to obtain support and get someone at MAdobe to sell me the product! (I think the name MAdobe is rather appropriate!). [q][i]Originally posted by: [b][b]Sarge[/b][/b][/i] The "official" resolution is the 7.01 installer -- the first CFMX release that officially support Windows 2003 SP 1 -- so it appears you have found a bonafide bug with the installer on your platform Gary2. I wonder if you or Nick have reported this bug with full platform details and reproductive steps? Again, my humlest apologies to anyone who's been denied support for any qualifying issue. Hopefully after the transition period your experiences with Adobe Support will be much improved.[/q] Sarge, it may interest you to know that this problem PERSISTS. The 7.0.1 installer behaves in-no-way differently when run on a virgin Windows 2003 Standard Edition box. I have been at this for weeks before coming across Gary's convoluted (but wonderful) procedure outlined in this post. Nothing, I repeat, nothing described in http://www.adobe.com/go/228c3aaa actually helps either. I understand the issue with the ZeroG installer and how DEP works and why on might think the suggestions in the technote would help, but they do not. I have repeated this over and over again on numerous kinds of hardware and in more VMWare instances than I can remember now. Without going through some process like what Gary outlines, you CANNOT install CFMX7 onto a 2003 box. I even excitedly tried the 7.0.2 installer the moment I got home from CFUNITED last week and still no dice! What's up Adobe? How in the world are people supposed to hail this product to their superiors when you can't even install it on the current server release of the most-used platform it comes on? I haven't even been able to get the installer to run properly on a plain vanilla 2003 box without SP1 applied! Turning off enhancements to an OS isn't an acceptable method anyway. Adobe needs to fix this. This isn't hard, it's just an installer! If it would take too many developer hours to switch to something better than old school ZeroG, then Adobe should at the very least create a command line only scripted version of the installer (that runs like the UNIX one, asking the user questions about standalone versus WAR/EAR, etc.) that can be used by 2003 system administrators. That should take only a couple days of development and QA effort. This really seems pretty inexcusable! I love Adobe products, please, Adobe, help your most devoted and excited product evangelists spread the word eh? Fix this so we can run CF on our machines! Those of us stuck in 6.1 who want new features can't sit around just waiting for Scorpio... I've been attempting to evaluate coldfusion but I can't get it to work at all with IIS on a winxp pro development box, always bombs out with something about the connectors, says coldfusion isn't running but it certainly shows that it's running in the managment console. Same error with the firewall disabled. There are no errors in the coldfusion log directory (and the logs say it's started also) or in the management console. After reading this forum I'm now reconsidering if I should go any further or dump CFmx7 out the window for this project. I've been digging around for solutions for the past 4 hours and am still no farther than when I started. If I don't have this server up and running by tomorrow afternoon I'm pleading a case against using this what appears to be unreliable product. The comments on this forum are enlightening about what's probably in store down the road doing business with macromedia. Thanks to everyone who has shared their experience with this product. I run MX7 just fine on my Win XP Professional system at home. I will admit that doing business with Macromedia down the road may be problematic since it is now Adobe. Which I'm sure we all are concerned about being a fly by night operation. Ok snarkness asside. Can you give some details about your problem? Which version of CF did you install, standalone, multi-server or J2EE. What web server are you using with ColdFusion, IIS, Apache, ColdFusion's built in server or something else? Where does it bomb out, during the install? When you run the connectors utility? When you try and use a website? Other information you feel might be pertinent. As with all software, there are many more millions possible configurations of user systems then even the largest company can possible account for and test. But several thousand of us out here are using this product just fine and reliably and many of us are willing to help any who ask. > I've been attempting to evaluate coldfusion but I can't get it to work at all > with IIS on a winxp pro development box, always bombs out with something about [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > about what's probably in store down the road doing business with macromedia. > Thanks to everyone who has shared their experience with this product. [q][i]Originally posted by: [b][b]jptros[/b][/b][/i] I've been attempting to evaluate coldfusion but I can't get it to work at all with IIS on a winxp pro development box, always bombs out with something about the connectors, says coldfusion isn't running but it certainly shows that it's running in the managment console. ...[/q] jptros, my WinXP Pro laptop has every version of ColdFusion (in various configurations): CF 5, MX, MX 6.1, 7.0.2 (and Scorpio alpha). I have never had a problem getting CF installed on one of my laptops (this is one my 4 since I joined Allaire ;)). I've always recommended installing to the internal/built-in web server (JWS) so that the connector wizard doesn't impede the install. After you've completed the configuration wizard, you can go back and add the web server connector. Here's a link on my blog: http://www.sargeway.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=49. CFMX 7 certainly installs on the latest flavors of Windows: XP Pro, 2000, 2003. I've even seen it installed on Media Center and Vista! Thanks for taking the time to assist me in getting this going. The install gets to the end and says it completed with success but some errors occured, the errors are about installing the connectors. I get the same exact error message when trying to install the connectors after CF is installed. Here is the error: Could no connect to any JRun/ColdFusion servers on host localhost. Possible causes: o Server not running - Start Macromedia Jrun4 or ColdFusion MX server o Server running - JNDI listen port in jndi.properties is blocked by TCP/IP filtering or firewall on server - host restriction in security.properties in blocking communication So from here I started by disable the windows firewall as well as a/v software and took another stab and got the same error durring the install and trying to install the connectors after the install. I've checked the logs for coldfusion and there is no error messages, the logs report the server is running and under services in the management console it shows the service as running. Ok, so I dug around some more and found coldfusion-70-updater2-win.exe and gave that try, same problems. I'm not even sure this update applied to my CF version that I aquired just the other day as a download (coldfusion-702-win.exe) or maybe it's already included in this version (the 2 in the version number?). I'm off to try what you suggested, installing it as a stand alone server and then running the connectors and we'll see where that goes. My end goal is to have CF integrated with IIS so I can evalute it as it will be used for actual development of the project which we are considering it for. Apache is another option aside from IIS but one of the biggest reason's we're evaluating CF at all is because of it's ability to work on many different platforms with many different setups without much hassle (atleast that's the impression we had :). Thanks again and sorry for being short and judgmental with my comments yesterday, frustration and a hot head. J.P. Windows 2003 is very "Secure". If it's firewall is running it will block all ports that are not pre-configured to be allowed to be used. ColdFusion is going to try and run it's connector and administrator utilities at the end of the install on port 8300 (by default, you can configure it to use another port.) I suspect Windows is blocking this port. An example of how cf access the administrator is . You can run the connector and the administrator manually after the install. If you have ColdFusion installed and it appears to be running correctly in the services. Look for the Web Server Configuration tool under the Macromedai|Adobe > ColdFusion MX 7 in the start up. Once you have Windows 2003 allowing the required ports, you can use this to create the connectors. You would then go to the administrator at http://localhost:8300/cfide/administrator > Thanks for taking the time to assist me in getting this going. The install gets > to the end and says it completed with success but some errors occured, the [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > yesterday, frustration and a hot head. > J.P. [q][i]Originally posted by: [b][b]CF_GetHelp[/b][/b][/i] Without going through some process like what Gary outlines, you CANNOT install CFMX7 onto a 2003 box.[/q] Gary2 I understand your frustration but this is simply not a true statement. I run Windows 2003 Standard on my desktop and I have not had any issues re/installing CFMX 7.0.1+. I did run into issues with the 7.0 install and SP1 -- but as I said, the 7.01 installer was the first to officially support Windows 2003. We have several Win2K3 machines in our support lab with various installs of CFMX 7. Furthermore, we have plenty of customers (including ISPs) who are running CFMX 7.x on Win2K3. I can't speak for all of my teammates, but I certainly have several Gold customers who run this as a production configuration. Again, I feel your pain (and I have helped others through it) but obviously CFMX 7.x will install on Windows 2003 -- even with the SP. [q]I even excitedly tried the 7.0.2 installer the moment I got home from CFUNITED last week and still no dice! What's up Adobe? How in the world are people supposed to hail this product to their superiors when you can't even install it on the current server release of the most-used platform it comes on?[/q] I did the same thing once the final bits were released and I had no issues getting it installed (again, Windows 2003 Standard). Since CFUNITED I have done at least two additional 7.0.2 installs -- one on a production hosted system, and one in our labs -- again, no problems with the installer. [q]Turning off enhancements to an OS isn't an acceptable method anyway. Adobe needs to fix this. This isn't hard, it's just an installer! If it would take too many developer hours to switch to something better than old school ZeroG, then Adobe should at the very least create a command line only scripted version of the installer (that runs like the UNIX one, asking the user questions about standalone versus WAR/EAR, etc.) that can be used by 2003 system administrators. That should take only a couple days of development and QA effort. This really seems pretty inexcusable![/q] I believe the installer goes through an intensive QA process, and from their standpoint it installs. We have technotes for issues that support engineers have worked through with customers to get it installed. I agree it would be nice to have a command-line interface and I have also filed my own enhancements for some of the wizard options/questions. However, if the QA and Dev teams do not see/experience the issues, how can they fix them. I don't want to get into a drawn out discussion, but the process has always been (going back to the Allaire days) -- we can't fix anything we can't replicate in our labs. We believe you have a bonified issue, but unless we can replicate, how can we even begin to fix it --when all of our installs are working?! HTH, Make the move to Blue dragon. New Atlanta are a far more caring and responsive company, like allaire used to be. You can actually call and speak to someone and get support and you don't have to get your creditcard out. Russ, I've tried Blue Dragon and am very impressed with how easy it is to install (and just a 17mb download). It integrates with IIS wonderfully as if it were a .NET filter which is very clever and I can even make use of .NET sessions and mix .NET languages in with CFML code! As soon as BD catch up with the CFDocument tag I'll jump ship as this one is half sunk and my feet are very, very wet. :-( Adobe seriously need to whip their Macromedia attachment into shape, or at least, like anything you buy at Christmas time, keep the receipt! ;-) There is already a CF_document tag for BD that does essentially the same thing. Or you can use any of the other 3rd party equivilents. Russ, I don't suppose you can point me to some details on BD's cf_document tag please? I searched their site but it came up null. I would class CF's cfdocument as quite a feature rich function, especially with the excellent ReportBuilder creating smart templates.Cheers. Your best off emailing new atlanta and asking them, it may not be official, charlie showed it to us at a presentation. Gary, You have saved my CFMX project. I was soon to move to another platform had you not gone through your troubles here. Macromedia owes you. Thank you! |
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