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tslow - 05 Sep 2007 23:17 GMT
I cannot get <cfflush> to work on a CF8 server.  I am doing a simple cfoutput,
running a cfx sleep tag, and then outputing more text with a cfoutput.  On my
CF6.1 server (which is identical besides the version of CF), this works
correctly.  On the CF8 server, nothing is displayed until the whole page
finishes.

Both servers are running on Windows 2003 IIS 6.  I'm returning a large chunk
of text in both cfoutputs, so it's not the browser complaining that there is
not enough text.

Thanks, Tim
tslow - 06 Sep 2007 21:27 GMT
I did a little more research and it seems that it CF8 only flushes when there
is a lot of text to push.  Specifically, it needs 73729 characters before it
will push any data.  This seems to be the same size that <cfflush interval=1>
uses.  Is there a way to lower this number?  Or is this due to a setting on my
server?  We don't use <cfflush> very often, but when we do, we want the browser
to know that we are still processing a page and that it shouldn't timeout.

Here's what I used to test this.  On my server, if you lower the size of the
outputted text by one character, it doesn't flush for the first cfflush.

-Tim

<cfset VARIABLES.longText = '<p>' & RepeatString("a", 73722) & '</p>'>

<cfoutput>#VARIABLES.longText#</cfoutput>
<cfflush>
<cfset sleep(2000)>
<cfoutput>#VARIABLES.longText#</cfoutput>
<cfflush>
<cfset sleep(2000)>
<cfoutput>#VARIABLES.longText#</cfoutput>
<cfflush>

<cfoutput>Length = #Len(VARIABLES.longText)#</cfoutput>
tomj - 07 Sep 2007 15:39 GMT
To be clear, ColdFusion flushes its output buffer immediately when cfflush is
called.

As pointed out in other postings, there is a lot of software (J2EE server, web
server, network and client) between ColdFusion and the browser, so if you are
seeing delays, there are many places to look.  My guess is the web server, as
we know JRun and Firefox do not interfere with cfflush.
tslow - 07 Sep 2007 16:24 GMT
The reason why I think that this is a CF 8 specific issue is that I have a
development machine running two virtual machines.  They both are identical in
(almost) every way as one was cloned from the other.  They both have Windows
2003, IIS 6, some DCOMs, and some asp code.  The only difference is that one is
running CF6.1 and the other is running CF8.

I can run the code I posted (using cfx_sleep instead of sleep()) on both the
CF6 and CF8 machines.  The CF6 machine flushes correctly -- I can lower it to
output only one character at a time and it flushes every time.  With CF8, it
appears that this requires a minimum of 73729 characters for the buffer to
flush.

I can look more into IIS, but I don't think that will give me anything because
these two machines are identical besides the coldfusion installs.  Does this
work with CF8 running on JRun?  Perhaps there is something weird with the way
that CF8 interfaces with IIS?

As for taking a different coding approach, we use AJAX a lot for things like
this, but we have a specific backend need that cannot handle javascript.  And
pushing 73729 at a time seems a little ridiculous (but I guess possible).

Thanks, Tim
c_wigginton - 07 Sep 2007 14:47 GMT
What browser and web server did you use for the test?  IE as well as IIS buffer
the content.  I just tested your code on CF8 in a multiserver configuration
with an IIS web server connector.  Both Firefox and IE experienced the same
buffering in that configuration.

I further tested the file using the built-in web server of CF.  With IE, the
buffering occurred (IE buffering), but when I used FireFox with the CF built-in
web server, no buffering and flushing worked as expected, multiple refreshes as
well and still no cfflush problems with the built-in CF web server and Firefox.

You might want to consider looking into a UI re-design for providing the user
status on a long process by delivering  a quick layout and then through
periodic polling, grab an updated status of the process via AJAX.
tslow - 11 Sep 2007 21:05 GMT
I've searched through all of the settings files that I could find for IIS and
CF8 and couldn't find anything that seemed related to this issue.  The
buffering that c_wigginton suggested seems to only apply to asp (I tried it and
it doesn't work).

Do other configurations flush pages back to Firefox immediately upon <cfflush>
tag call?  I'm only able to test CF8 Standard as the Server configuration on
top of IIS6.  It would be nice to know if the problem does lie somewhere with
my server's settings, although I've run out of things to try.  Should I submit
a bug to Adobe?
pwenke - 14 Sep 2007 23:35 GMT
Has anyone found a solution to this problem?  Turning buffering off in IIS does
not work.

I have the following configurations, some where <cfflush> works and some where
it does not:
CF7 on IIS6 - works
CF8 on IIS6 - does not work
CF8 on IIS7 - does not work
CF8 on Apache2 - works

The box I have with CF8 on IIS6 was just upgraded from CF7 to CF8.  No code
changes, no IIS changes, only CF.  It worked before; it's broken now.

On a side note, <cfflush> does not work with some configurations of IIS
compression.

Thanks,
Pat
orangepips - 11 Dec 2007 19:33 GMT
Seconding pwenke:

CF7 IIS6 works
CF7 Apache2 works
CF8 IIS6 fails
CF8 Apache2 works
Adam Cameron - 11 Dec 2007 23:05 GMT
> CF8 IIS6 fails

On this CF instance, browse to the template using the in-built JRun
webserver instead of IIS.  Does the flushing (!) work?  This is a fair
low-impact reconfiguration (if any at all), and quickly will demonstrate
whether it's IIS or CF at fault.

To throw the cat amongst the pigeons, I've also see flushing not work on
one CF7 machine where another with "identical" set-up (same CF, OS, web
server config, set up by the same person, at the same time) and code works
fine.  Unfortunately the one that works fine is our QA server. The one not
working is the client's live server :-(

That said, I've never thought it to be a CF problem, I've always assumed
it's some sort of caching or transmission hold up from the web server, or
intermediary network equipment.

Signature

Adam

orangepips - 12 Dec 2007 14:47 GMT
Here is my http://orangepips.instantspot.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/12/12/cfflush-Problem-and-
Solution-on-CF8-with-IIS
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bear1 - 25 Oct 2007 22:04 GMT
I have the same problem. Installed CF 8 on a Windows 2003 server running IIS
and the cfflush tag no longer works. On an identical (as far as I know) server
running cf 7, it works fine.

If I provide a comment with the number of characters specified by tslow above
then it works. I also have this same problem on a cf8 development installation
running on Vista.

Thanks
Chuck
mbiebrich - 13 Nov 2007 18:58 GMT
We just recently upgraded one of our development servers from CF7 to CF8 and
code within our CMS that used CFFlush before and worked just fine no longer
works correctly in CF8.

The entire process runs without error, CF just doesn't appear to be flushing
the content out to the browser. The same code works properly on our CF7 dev
box, and both our CF6 and CF7 production boxes. Same results in FF and IE.

Just some extra info in case it helps, this is the box that it worked on just
fine before we upgraded. The code is really simple, no tables, nothing out of
the oridinary.

CF8
Windows 2000
SQL Server 2000 (seperate machine)
IIS 5
MrBlack - 08 Jun 2011 14:53 GMT
CFFLUSH Work around.

I haven't tested in all environments but its working good so far.
<cfoutput>
    #repeatString(" ", 250)# <!--- kick iis into doing something --->
</cfoutput>

OR

<cfscript>
    for(i=1;i LTE 250; i=i+1){
        writeOutput(" ");  // kick iis into doing something
    }
</cfscript>

>We just recently upgraded one of our development servers from CF7 to CF8 and
>code within our CMS that used CFFlush before and worked just fine no longer
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> SQL Server 2000 (seperate machine)
> IIS 5
MrBlack - 08 Jun 2011 15:10 GMT
>CFFLUSH Work around. (from ColdFusionJedi)
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> SQL Server 2000 (seperate machine)
>> IIS 5
 
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